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Old 02-28-2009, 09:45 PM
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Default SHUFFLED BACK: shaking off a troubled trip

Too much is made of horses that get shuffled back BUT don't run afterwards. For an example of how a (real) horse overcomes getting shuffled back, check out

LRL_01_21_09_R1, #3 Wild Repent.

(who just happens to be running back tomorrow at PHA)
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Old 03-01-2009, 02:35 AM
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the point of this post is what ? if you have a clear point please make it .
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Old 03-01-2009, 08:22 AM
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It seems pretty clear to me. Many people watch a race and see a check or shuffle back, or see those things in the trouble line, and assume that was the reason the horse didn't win the race...when in reality, the horse didn't do any running after the trouble anyway, so it didn't make much difference. The only ones that are bet- backs are the ones who ran into that kind of troubled trip, and then did some serious running once they have running room.
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Old 03-01-2009, 09:38 AM
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This is why horseracing is such a wonderful excercise in opinion and this reflects in the variance of odds...Interpretation, you ask 100 people of a trip and I'll wager you will not get the same identical interpretation from each individual.
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:15 AM
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the point of this post is what ? if you have a clear point please make it .
TFM was trying to help educate people so we could become better handicappers. he did this by pointing to a common mistake people make and providing a good example of how to use this angle. And he did all of this before the horse ran back providing a wagering opportunity as well. I think the correct response should be thank you.

Paul
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:17 AM
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TFM was trying to help educate people so we could become better handicappers. he did this by pointing to a common mistake people make and providing a good example of how to use this angle. And he did all of this before the horse ran back providing a wagering opportunity as well. I think the correct response should be thank you.

Paul
i thought this was his intent as well.
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:29 AM
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TFM was trying to help educate people so we could become better handicappers. he did this by pointing to a common mistake people make and providing a good example of how to use this angle. And he did all of this before the horse ran back providing a wagering opportunity as well. I think the correct response should be thank you.

Paul
exactly
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Old 03-01-2009, 11:48 AM
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This horse is scratched today. I will put this horse on my watch list though. Thanks TFM for the heads up!
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:09 PM
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Any horse that tries to run back the next day
will be looked at closely. Or even a week after,
if it is not some cheap claimer.
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Old 03-01-2009, 01:03 PM
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Huh?

I assumed the horse had run (shuffled back) recently as was
being run back.

My bad.
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