Ruffian: Burning from the Start

GPK · #1 08-02-2006, 07:16 AM

Just finished the book...I guess in hopes of it turning out different.

She was foaled the same year as me, 1972. I bet she must have been a pure pleasure to watch run. Does anyone know if there are any videos around of any of her races??

dr. fager · #2 08-02-2006, 07:29 AM

short video...mostly the trainer here but none the less

http://www.racingmuseum.org/hall/horse.asp?ID=128

irishtrekker · #3 08-02-2006, 07:33 AM

There's a nice tribute video on YouTube. No live footage, but a tearjerker (at least if you're me):

http://youtube.com/watch?v=96wka0rBH...uffian%20horse

I've never actually seen "the" race, or Go For Wand's, or any of the others. I always thought I should see Ruffian's match race just because it was a part of racing history, even if it was a tragic part...but after the way I felt when Barbaro broke down, I don't know if I want to.

GPK · #4 08-02-2006, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by irishtrekker

There's a nice tribute video on YouTube. No live footage, but a tearjerker (at least if you're me):

http://youtube.com/watch?v=96wka0rBH...uffian%20horse

I've never actually seen "the" race, or Go For Wand's, or any of the others. I always thought I should see Ruffian's match race just because it was a part of racing history, even if it was a tragic part...but after the way I felt when Barbaro broke down, I don't know if I want to.

Thank you hun.

irishtrekker · #5 08-02-2006, 07:40 AM

No problem. I always thought it was weird, too, that both of her parents died similarly (both came out of anesthesia and went wild, breaking legs).

I need to read that book you finished -- I keep swearing I will, but somehow I just avoid it instead. How you feelin' this morning?

GPK · #6 08-02-2006, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by irishtrekker

No problem. I always thought it was weird, too, that both of her parents died similarly (both came out of anesthesia and went wild, breaking legs).

I need to read that book you finished -- I keep swearing I will, but somehow I just avoid it instead. How you feelin' this morning?

You should finish it...

I feel good this morning...still some pain where they cut me, but it's amazing to me how great my legs feel. Went for a walk last night and thought I may be hurting a little this morning, but I feel really good. Thanks.

GPK · #7 08-02-2006, 07:33 AM

Thanks bro

sham · #8 08-02-2006, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK

Just finished the book...I guess in hopes of it turning out different.

She was foaled the same year as me, 1972. I bet she must have been a pure pleasure to watch run. Does anyone know if there are any videos around of any of her races??

here is a link to ebay. I've had good luck buying horse videos on ebay over the years and have most of the greats in my video library.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vhs-Dvd-RUFFIAN-...QQcmdZViewItem

GPK · #9 08-02-2006, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by sham

here is a link to ebay. I've had good luck buying horse videos on ebay over the years and have most of the greats in my video library.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vhs-Dvd-RUFFIAN-...QQcmdZViewItem

Thank you Sham.

paisjpq · #10 08-02-2006, 10:53 AM

kev-while you are laid up you MUST read 'Stud:adventures in Breeding'--if you haven't already. It's really good.

slotdirt · #11 08-02-2006, 10:54 AM

I'm trying to get through Man o' War: Legend like Lightning, but man, is that book disjointed.

paisjpq · #12 08-02-2006, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

I'm trying to get through Man o' War: Legend like Lightning, but man, is that book disjointed.

is that the new one that came out earlier this year?

#13 08-02-2006, 11:01 AM

There's a "grassy knoll" conspiracy theory ...

... that claims Ruffian was by Bold Ruler ... not by his son Reviewer.

The theory goes like this ...

In 1971 Bold Ruler was dying from cancer and could only service one more season. His son Reviewer was in his first season at stud ... both at Claiborne.

So ... there was nothing to gain from Bold Ruler siring another champion ... but a lot to gain if Reviewer did. Thus ... the records were fudged to list Reviewer as Ruffian's sire ... not Bold Ruler.

Believe it? ... Or not?

paisjpq · #14 08-02-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

There's a "grassy knoll" conspiracy theory ...

... that claims Ruffian was by Bold Ruler ... not by his son Reviewer.

The theory goes like this ...

In 1971 Bold Ruler was dying from cancer and could only service one more season. His son Reviewer was in his first season at stud ... both at Claiborne.

So ... there was nothing to gain from Bold Ruler siring another champion ... but a lot to gain if Reviewer did. Thus ... the records were fudged to list Reviewer as Ruffian's sire ... not Bold Ruler.

Believe it? ... Or not?

interesting idea...where did the theory come from? or more to the point where did YOU hear it?

GPK · #15 08-02-2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

kev-while you are laid up you MUST read 'Stud:adventures in Breeding'--if you haven't already. It's really good.

Thanks...I will have to check that one out too.

paisjpq · #16 08-02-2006, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK

Thanks...I will have to check that one out too.

it's imformative but very tongue in cheek--I think you will like it.