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Old 08-27-2008, 03:21 AM
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Default Labor Violations at Saratoga

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) -- "State Labor Commissioner M. Patricia Smith
says her agency has found widespread violations of labor law at
Saratoga Race Course.
The labor department investigation discovered minimum wage,
overtime and record keeping violations.
Smith says the probe showed thousands of dollars in wages have
gone unpaid.
Details of the violations are scheduled to be released at a
press conference Wednesday."



http://www.labor.state.ny.us/
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Old 08-27-2008, 07:27 AM
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Old 08-27-2008, 07:33 AM
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"The state Labor Department said Tuesday that horse trainers at Saratoga Race Course are engaged in "widespread violations of labor law," including not paying backstretch workers minimum wage and overtime, and keeping poor records."
http://timesunion.com/AspStories/sto...egory=SARATOGA
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Old 08-27-2008, 08:48 AM
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Haven't read the actual state report, however, this may in fact have more to do with individual trainers than it has to do with NYRA -- for that matter, perhaps everything.

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Old 08-27-2008, 09:49 AM
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Haven't read the actual state report, however, this may in fact have more to do with individual trainers than it has to do with NYRA -- for that matter, perhaps everything.

Eric

The e-mail from Rosales did not identify what employers were implicated, but a person close to the case said the investigation focused on private horse trainers, not the New York Racing Association.


per the article posted by Travis.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:53 AM
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I would like to know who the hell is actually surprised that these people are underpaid...
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Old 08-27-2008, 08:52 AM
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"The state Labor Department said Tuesday that horse trainers at Saratoga Race Course are engaged in "widespread violations of labor law," including not paying backstretch workers minimum wage and overtime, and keeping poor records."
http://timesunion.com/AspStories/sto...egory=SARATOGA
Wouldn't they have to be here legally in order to be violated according to the law? Oh, wai









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Old 08-27-2008, 11:23 AM
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Wouldn't they have to be here legally in order to be violated according to the law? Oh, wai









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i'm not sure why you think it has only to do with undocumented workers. wal-mart had a suit filed not long ago because of people working off the clock. a lot of companies encourage this sort of thing--they say they don't want you working off the clock, but they don't wish to pay overtime, but make you feel as tho you should accomplish everything on your schedule in the time allotted, and that if you haven't-perhaps you're not working as efficiently as you should. so, next thing you know, people are working off the clock.

the backstretch, along with a lot of other employers, are hurting for workers as a lot of people aren't filing for migrant visas--the numbers aren't as high as in years' past for people coming here to work.

i can't help wondering if there is a correlation between our current economic problems and the witchhunt mentality we've had for the last year or so regarding foreign workers. people won't come here if they are made to feel unwanted, and then employers can't fill vacancies. so then they have to hike their offered wages to try to attract people, raising their prices at the same time-which drives up inflation. and that's exactly what we're experiencing right now.
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"Migrant visas?" Please define "migrant visa" and describe the process of obtaining one.

So, enforcing immigration and labor laws is a "witchhunt mentality?" I hope that law enforcement everywhere engages in "witchhunt mentality" more often, particularly in this area of widespread illegality.
i don't know the process of getting a visa to work here, since i'm not from another country, and never needed to get permission to work here.
but there are h2-a and h2-b programs for foreign workers to be able to get work here for a specified amount of time.
as for my comment on the 'witchhunt mentality'....i meant that in regards to the fact that many automatically assume that if someone looks mexican, well by god they must be here illegally. a lot of assuming going on as to who belongs here, and who doesn't.
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Old 08-29-2008, 10:46 AM
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"Migrant visas?" Please define "migrant visa" and describe the process of obtaining one.

So, enforcing immigration and labor laws is a "witchhunt mentality?" I hope that law enforcement everywhere engages in "witchhunt mentality" more often, particularly in this area of widespread illegality.
Actually the amount of visas has been cut by the govt because of political reasons. The truth is that backside jobs are considered too hard by most americans and the ones that we have often are unemployable elsewhere. If you believe that the workforce picking fruit and CA and probably cleaning your building in NY are 100% in compliance with immigration and labor laws then maybe you would be interested in purchasing that bridge that connects manhattan and brooklyn?
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