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Old 07-27-2006, 09:05 PM
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Default Scat Daddy was "Impressive" Today

I guess Oracle should go correct Pletcher tomorrow considering he knows everything.

"It was impressive what he did the last 50 or 60 yards," Pletcher said. "The Hopeful (gr. I, $250,000, seven furlongs, Sept. 4) will be the most logical thing."


"The good news now is that he has an educational trip under his belt," said Pletcher, Saratoga's leading trainer the past four years who won his third Sanford. "He got dirt in his face and he was down inside and he was a little green. Once (Velazquez) got him outside and in the clear, he got into that big stride he's got. I didn't think he was going to get there."

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Old 07-27-2006, 09:17 PM
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What do you expect the trainer to say, "My horse ran like a 3-legged mule!!"

Listen I don't know why you and Oracle get after each other so much about this topic. Personally I think the two most impressive performances I have seen by a 2yo this year were CQ's maiden win and CQ's Bashford win. You disagree and have your reasons. Okay fine.
I have a lot of respect for what you and Oracle have to say about the sport, and I really can't understand why you two can't discuss the 2yo this year without getting nasty.
Oh well....just my two cents.
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:42 PM
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I agree with Miraja2.
CQ's races have both been extremely visually impressive to me. Push-button acceleration that reminded me of Afleet Alex. But there's no reason to get up into each other's face about 2-yos right now.
There will be so many impressive maiden winners at the Spa and Del Mar this summer, including the long-awaited debut by the Green Monkey. You should agree to disagree and move on.
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:44 PM
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Because they are from New York and 50% of the people there have no clue how to argue constructively, besides name calling....Us people from Chicago know how to argue constructively, which is why Chicago RULES...

(only 4 images allowed, otherwise, I was going to go nuts with smileys)

(For the record, I am totally kidding about this, but we haven't had a Chicago vs NY battle in SOME TIME, YANKEES SUCK)
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:23 AM
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I didn't start the thread addressed to me. Unlike most, I don't let people like Oracle push me around. He knows more than me, but I am going to guess I have more money invested in it than he does. From what I can tell Cunningham is another invested in the business that Oracle likes to try to push around and like Cunningham, I stick up for myself.
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:32 AM
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I didn't start the thread addressed to me. Unlike most, I don't let people like Oracle push me around. He knows more than me, but I am going to guess I have more money invested in it than he does. From what I can tell Cunningham is another invested in the business that Oracle likes to try to push around and like Cunningham, I stick up for myself.
1) You are a jerkoff
2) You think that these supposed experts you refer know more than someone like myself or Blackthroat, big mistake dude.
3) I like you because you are enthusiatic and getting into the game.
4) You don't know enough about the game yet to argue intelligently about it and thats where the problems lie. Anyone with a brain knows that the horse was not "green" yesterday. He encountered minor traffic trouble and then was fully extended beaten and scrubbed to narrowly get in up in a time that was only one second faster than an 0-15 Ny bred maiden and 3YO claimer.
Any novice would even realize that the expectations that guys like you and Joel heard from your "sources"(who are also jerk offs) are obviously not going to be achieved.
5) You try and play both sides of every coin, and you look like a moron when you do so. You tell everyone not to bet a 2YO heavily like Cotton Blossom at 8-1 yet you think its a good idea to bet a favorite making his debut on turf at a short price, yeah, ok, sure. Then you claim to have bet Blossom(you are welcome if you did). At some point in order to have any credibility you must concede error. You obviously think these clowns, and they are clowns, know more more than folks like me. You are sadly mistaken.
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:40 AM
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1) You are a jerkoff
2) You think that these supposed experts you refer know more than someone like myself or Blackthroat, big mistake dude.
3) I like you because you are enthusiatic and getting into the game.
4) You don't know enough about the game yet to argue intelligently about it and thats where the problems lie. Anyone with a brain knows that the horse was not "green" yesterday. He encountered minor traffic trouble and then was fully extended beaten and scrubbed to narrowly get in up in a time that was only one second faster than an 0-15 Ny bred maiden and 3YO claimer.
Any novice would even realize that the expectations that guys like you and Joel heard from your "sources"(who are also jerk offs) are obviously not going to be achieved.
5) You try and play both sides of every coin, and you look like a moron when you do so. You tell everyone not to bet a 2YO heavily like Cotton Blossom at 8-1 yet you think its a good idea to bet a favorite making his debut on turf at a short price, yeah, ok, sure. Then you claim to have bet Blossom(you are welcome if you did). At some point in order to have any credibility you must concede error. You obviously think these clowns, and they are clowns, know more more than folks like me. You are sadly mistaken.
Truth hurts.

1) Please show me where I said not to bet the horse. I am still waiting.
2) You act like I bet him because you gave it out. Memo to world, if Oracle gives out a Pletcher/Velasquez horse than if you bet him/her Oracle gets all the credit. He was a Pletcher/Velasquez horse in a two yr old race that went off at 8-1. I put $20 on him, not real money. Great value bet.
3) I am still trying to figure out where I said the people I know have more knowledge than you. Please show me that too.
4) Oracle says I don't know enough to argue, but I can assure you there are owners, big owners of some of the top horses, that know next to nothing about the game. I guess they can spend millions but they aren't allowed to have an opinon. LOL.
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Old 07-28-2006, 08:48 AM
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1) Anyone with a brain knows that the horse was not "green" yesterday.
Hey Oracle, I am 100% with you about Circular Quay, but I don't know about the above comment. Pletcher did say that he looked green, and I am pretty sure he has a brain.
He looked green to me too. Personally I don't think he will be in CQ's league even when he gets a little more seasoning, but to me he certainly looked green yesterday. Apparently I have no brain.
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