No Dime Supers at NYRA on Fri. and Sat.

[Holland Hacker]

Just wanted to give some of you Guys & Gals a heads up that there will not be any dime supers offered by NYRA on Friday and Saturday.

According to NYRA's website they are not allowing Dime Supers on Friday and Saturday, I guess Churchill & Pimlico didn't show a drop in super wagering with out the dime Super so NYRA is following suit.

Since I'm not a big Super play this doesn't impact me but I know some of you guys do play the dime supers so I wanted to give you a heads up.

I am looking forward to the Brooklyn / Belmont Double and I just noticed that the website (NYRA.com) states that it is "only available ontrack and via telebet."

[ateamstupid]

Shocking, really. Betting at Belmont on Saturday is going to be torture. I'm gonna put my pick fours in early and just enjoy the day.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Holland Hacker

I guess Churchill & Pimlico didn't show a drop in super wagering with out the dime Super so NYRA is following suit.

Extremely counterintuitive. Very hard to believe. (well, i didn't even know Pimlico had dime supers, but haven't played their sans Preakness).
Something is extremely wrong if the dime supers do not generate more money for the SUPER pools. However, that is NOT increased money in the OVERALL pools. The extra money in the super pools is coming from the small bankroll players, who have a set amount to lose. Whether they lose it in the dime super or the win/place/show or the exacta pool doesn't matter. In other words dime supers do not affect total handle. They should affect super handle unless the track is doing something wrong.
It seems like another case of the tracks not getting it, if they aren't showing an individual pool increase.

All that said, I am generally against dime supers, and always against them in feature races and stakes races. I do think they have their place in cheaper tracks, and polytrack races of over 8 entries.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

Extremely counterintuitive. Very hard to believe. (well, i didn't even know Pimlico had dime supers, but haven't played their sans Preakness).
Something is extremely wrong if the dime supers do not generate more money for the SUPER pools. However, that is NOT increased money in the OVERALL pools. The extra money in the super pools is coming from the small bankroll players, who have a set amount to lose. Whether they lose it in the dime super or the win/place/show or the exacta pool doesn't matter. In other words dime supers do not affect total handle. They should affect super handle unless the track is doing something wrong.
It seems like another case of the tracks not getting it, if they aren't showing an individual pool increase.

All that said, I am generally against dime supers, and always against them in feature races and stakes races. I do think they have their place in cheaper tracks, and polytrack races of over 8 entries.

Ok, you have me intrigued, what does the surface have to do with the type of exotic wager to play?

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Scav

Ok, you have me intrigued, what does the surface have to do with the type of exotic wager to play?

You get some of these cheaper races on polytrack and it seems at least to me to diminish the difference between who the 4th and 8th best animals. Maybe all the slots to some degree.

-Ive hit dime supers in chaos situations at Arlington for example that i wouldn't even have bet the race otherwise, much less bet a heavy $1 superfecta to take it down.

In a stakes race, I don't want the dime super(on any surface). Especially in the "classics". If I did a great job of deciding that the 6th betting choice is better than the 4th betting choice, then I don't want to share "my" super pool with coverage dimers.

just my opinions, i could be off base

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

You get some of these cheaper races on polytrack and it seems at least to me to diminish the difference between who the 4th and 8th best animals. Maybe all the slots to some degree.

-Ive hit dime supers in chaos situations at Arlington for example that i wouldn't even have bet the race otherwise, much less bet a heavy $1 superfecta to take it down.

In a stakes race, I don't want the dime super(on any surface). Especially in the "classics". If I did a great job of deciding that the 6th betting choice is better than the 4th betting choice, then I don't want to share "my" super pool with coverage dimers.

just my opinions, i could be off base

I don't think it's a bad opinion... for example I think the Derby super might have paid significantly (~15%?) less if they had dime supers.

[Alan07]

There are no dime supers at Pimlico