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02-25-2008, 03:09 PM
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Coa's ride in the FOY
This, to me, is a way more egregious type of bad ride than any wide trip or burial down inside.
Overconfident jockeys are the worst. Coa doesn't do a thing on Elysium Fields until Cool Coal Man totally blows by him. Then the horse manages to re-rally and fall a neck short. Leparoux used to do this all the time. You've got 11 horses behind you and you're only at the top of the stretch, ride your freaking horse! For the record, I didn't bet the race, but I've been screwed by this kind of ride many a time. 
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02-25-2008, 03:23 PM
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I just watched the race for about the fifth time and couldn't disagree more. Coa asked Elysium Fields before Cool Coal Man and Cool Coal Man simply blew by him top of the stretch. Because Cornelio may have asked for slightly more run, though I just think he accelerated faster, that one tired a bit and Elysium Fields, who was basically in a drive the last quarter mile, may have had a little more very late in the race. However, these horses have defined moves, and maybe Cool Coal Man used his before Elysium Fields, though more than likely what this really means is that Cool Coal Man accelerated faster when asked.
I have no problem with an argument that Elysium Fields ran a slightly better race, given the post positions, and Coa should be applauded for the ride he gave Elysium Fields.....not criticized needlessly because he road a horse that wasn't quite good enough yesterday to overcome the disadvantageous post position difference. If Coa rides every horse as well as he rode Elysium Fields yesterday he may just make the slight leap necessary to become what is now considered an elite rider.
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02-25-2008, 05:10 PM
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You watched a different race than I did then, Andy. I saw Coa riding like a statue until Cool Coal Man had all momentum going and had surged to the lead. Now maybe Coa's overconfidence was mitigated by Kent's early move, but Elysium Fields looked like he had flames shooting out of his ass once Coa got to work on him, which happened to be when he was already 3-4 lengths behind. You honestly think Tagg could have been happy with that ride?
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02-25-2008, 05:20 PM
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I watched the Fountain of Youth. Maybe Tagg isn't happy with whatever race you saw but I'm sure he was as happy as he ever is with the ride Elysium Fields got in the 9th race at Gulfstream on February 24th, 2008.
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02-25-2008, 05:33 PM
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Okay. You win. The ideal ride definitely entails allowing a horse to get a 3-4 length jump on you, THEN working on the horse enough to fall a neck short.
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02-25-2008, 06:06 PM
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Quote:
http://www.thoroughbredracingradione...y=25&Itemid=35 Hour One: Welsch Hour Two: Haskin; Johnny D Hour Three: Lauren Stich
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02-25-2008, 06:32 PM
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two good rides
Coa -Elysium Fields -Bad post draw. - had to lean in aggressively and use a little horse to establish position early. - had one of the best horses in the race - wasn't able to relax or save ground - got his horse to even-terms midway on the far turn - finished in one of the top postions in the race Desormeaux Cool Coal Man - excellent position - relaxed and did not chase leaders while saving ground (let coa go) - excellent timing to "win" the race on the far turn - finished in one of the top positions in the race Everybody has to be happy , and from a wagering standpoint for the FOY it was inconsequential. If you noticed even one of the two was a win candidate you should have made money. For the future, if both should compete in the Florida Derby, sure Elysium Fields is a slightly better animal, but it would be hard not to include both of them anyway.
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