Freshman Sires

Rupert Pupkin · #1 02-23-2008, 07:51 PM

I'm down in Miami right now for the Fasig Tipton Two Year Old Sale. From what I've seen so far, it looks like some of the Lion Hearts and the Speightstowns can run. On the other hand, the Pleasantly Perfects don't look too good. Granted we're only dealing with a limited sample, but those are my impressions so far. With regard to the Pleasantly Perfects, I know they are bred to run long. I'm not concerned with their workout times. I'm concerned with the way they move. I've only seen a limited sample, but the PPs I've seen have not had a nice way of moving at all.

paisjpq · #2 02-23-2008, 07:53 PM

the PP yearlings I saw last fall were so enormous that I can't imagine they would have grown into their bodies enough to make a good showing at any 2YO sale.

blackthroatedwind · #3 02-23-2008, 07:55 PM

Makes you extra excited for the Jazil yearlings to finally hit the races.

paisjpq · #4 02-23-2008, 07:57 PM

LOL....low blow.

#5 02-23-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

the PP yearlings I saw last fall were so enormous that I can't imagine they would have grown into their bodies enough to make a good showing at any 2YO sale.

I'm proud of my boys.

PSH · #6 02-23-2008, 09:35 PM

some of the Chapel Royals are running nice times and selling okay also

kentuckyrosesinmay · #7 02-25-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I'm down in Miami right now for the Fasig Tipton Two Year Old Sale. From what I've seen so far, it looks like some of the Lion Hearts and the Speightstowns can run. On the other hand, the Pleasantly Perfects don't look too good. Granted we're only dealing with a limited sample, but those are my impressions so far. With regard to the Pleasantly Perfects, I know they are bred to run long. I'm not concerned with their workout times. I'm concerned with the way they move. I've only seen a limited sample, but the PPs I've seen have not had a nice way of moving at all.

And you know that horses don't really grow out of their way of moving. Can't wait to check out the previews. Thanks for the update, and good luck

Oh yeah, and congrats with WA and RBD today

You were right about WA. We always knew the other one had a lot of potential. Glad to see Ron finally got him straight. He looks fantastic!

MISTERGEE · #8 02-25-2008, 09:30 PM

speightstowns looking and running great

Cannon Shell · #9 02-25-2008, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

And you know that horses don't really grow out of their way of moving.

Please keep believing this and spread the word

paisjpq · #10 02-26-2008, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Please keep believing this and spread the word

no sh*t huh? but who are you to argue with her kind of expertise?

Kasept · #11 02-26-2008, 07:24 AM

I got to see about 2/3rds of last week's breezes, and one that looked nice to me was Hip 138, a Proud Citizen filly out of an American Chance mare. Richie mentioned Lion Heart and Speightstown, and there were colts by both that prospective buyers were talking about.. Hip 114 is Lion Heart via Deputy Minister mare VVS Flawless, and Hip 228 is the Speightstown from a Meadowlake mare.

And good luck today to Kenny Lejeune, who is training Aldebutante at Ocala. He has Hip 12, a Macho Uno filly named In the Evening, and Hip 95, an Officer filly, in the sale.

paisjpq · #12 02-26-2008, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

I got to see about 2/3rds of last week's breezes, and one that looked nice to me was Hip 138, a Proud Citizen filly out of an American Chance mare. Richie mentioned Lion Heart and Speightstown, and there were colts by both that prospective buyers were talking about.. Hip 114 is Lion Heart via Deputy Minister mare VVS Flawless, and Hip 228 is the Speightstown from a Meadowlake mare.

And good luck today to Kenny Lejeune, who is training Aldebutante at Ocala. He has Hip 12, a Macho Uno filly named In the Evening, and Hip 95, an Officer filly, in the sale.

I hope you got an expert opinion before posting this info.

philcski · #13 02-26-2008, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

I got to see about 2/3rds of last week's breezes, and one that looked nice to me was Hip 138, a Proud Citizen filly out of an American Chance mare. Richie mentioned Lion Heart and Speightstown, and there were colts by both that prospective buyers were talking about.. Hip 114 is Lion Heart via Deputy Minister mare VVS Flawless, and Hip 228 is the Speightstown from a Meadowlake mare.

And good luck today to Kenny Lejeune, who is training Aldebutante at Ocala. He has Hip 12, a Macho Uno filly named In the Evening, and Hip 95, an Officer filly, in the sale.

Saw a lot of the Speightstown yearlings last year and too my non-expert eye

they looked FAST FAST FAST...

kentuckyrosesinmay · #14 02-26-2008, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Hip 114 is Lion Heart via Deputy Minister mare VVS Flawless, and Hip 228 is the Speightstown from a Meadowlake mare.

You're good...

Rudeboyelvis · #15 02-26-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

And good luck today to Kenny Lejeune, who is training Aldebutante at Ocala. He has Hip 12, a Macho Uno filly named In the Evening, and Hip 95, an Officer filly, in the sale.

The BEST in Ocala, bar none as far as I'm concerned. Kenny is an awsome guy and an amazing developer of talent. If I didn't have so many irons in the fire already I would have loved to jump in on her - Best of everything to Dee Tee - Mr. Simon certainly know what he's doing!!

kentuckyrosesinmay · #16 02-25-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I'm down in Miami right now for the Fasig Tipton Two Year Old Sale. From what I've seen so far, it looks like some of the Lion Hearts and the Speightstowns can run. On the other hand, the Pleasantly Perfects don't look too good. Granted we're only dealing with a limited sample, but those are my impressions so far. With regard to the Pleasantly Perfects, I know they are bred to run long. I'm not concerned with their workout times. I'm concerned with the way they move. I've only seen a limited sample, but the PPs I've seen have not had a nice way of moving at all.

Just went through all of the Lion Hearts and Speightstowns.

I've got updated video quality on my computer now, so it is just like watching the videos on the TV. I stream the videos onto a bearshare account now, and the quality is much better. So, I can actually see them very well without getting the preview videos from the sales now. Just so that you know that I can see exactly what I am looking at.

Rich, there is one Speightstown and one Lion Heart that blow the rest of the Speightstowns and Lion Hearts out of the water. You will know which two I am talking about. Nice, nice horses. So excited. Love two-year-olds in training sales.

The Smarty Jones look fair so far...

The PPs remind me of the Mineshafts from last year. Of course, I don't think people are hyping the PPs like they were the Mineshafts. There was that one Mineshaft filly from the Keeneland sale that was just awesome though. Otherwise, there weren't too many good Mineshafts at the sales. I don't think that a single other Mineshaft made my list or even got a maybe from the sales except for the Keeneland filly last year. Of course, like you said, it is a limited sample of the horses so far.

#17 02-25-2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

The PPs remind me of the Mineshafts from last year. Of course, I don't think people are hyping the PPs like they were the Mineshafts. There was that one Mineshaft filly from the Keeneland sale that was just awesome though. Otherwise, there weren't too many good Mineshafts at the sales. I don't think that a single other Mineshaft made my list or even got a maybe from the sales except for the Keeneland filly last year.

Don't forget Cool Coal Man.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #18 02-25-2008, 10:59 PM

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Don't forget Cool Coal Man.

He was from a two year olds in training sale?

kentuckyrosesinmay · #19 02-25-2008, 11:01 PM

Nevermind, he was. From Fasig Tipton Calder. Still would have to look it up though. I don't remember another Mineshaft making my list, but I could be wrong. I just know that they were over-hyped as were the Vindications as a whole because not too many of them could run out of the enormous amount of them entered in the two year olds in training sales. I will say that Cool Coal Man's purchase price could very well reflect his workout as he did not go cheap. Wait, he was a buy back...oooppps. I'll have to pull out the video of him and take a look at him again because I don't have my lists from last year anymore, so I couldn't really tell you anyway. I can only remember a Mineshaft from Keeneland having an awesome workout last year out of the Mineshafts entered in the two year olds in training sales.

#20 02-25-2008, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

He was from a two year olds in training sale?

Excuse me I'm not hip with all of this trivial nerd stuff.

He was in the Keeneland Fall '06 sale. I just don't get why you are comparing PP's first crop to Mineshaft's 2nd(?) crop. Of course you're possibly the most confusing person I've ever encountered on the internet.