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Old 01-24-2008, 10:41 AM
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Default Odd Central Park Barbaro Memorial

http://www.send2press.com:80/newswir...0123-004.shtml

Very odd story in NYC where controversial artist Daniel Edwards, in concert with the Leo Kesting Gallery and as part of a 'Barbaros Law movement', are placing a statue/memorial in Central Park. Somewhat horrifying image below depicting 'Barbaro's inability to walk'... as well as 'Smoothie', a Carriage Horse killed last year.


'Plea For Disclosure of Race Fatalities'; 'Sympathetic to NYC Carriage Horses'
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Old 01-24-2008, 10:44 AM
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I think I will be paying a visit to that gallery on the next dark day. There's nothing like someone speaking about which they know nothing.
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Old 01-24-2008, 10:49 AM
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Their press release shows a real understanding of racing when they said " Barbaro, winner of the Kentucky Derby by the largest margin of victory since 1946, was considered a shoe-in for the Triple Crown and the English Derby. "

Nothing like someone desperate for attention. Shame on NYC for allowing this type of desperate attention getting crap to get public funds as well as a public display.

I also liked his other sculptures.....Britney Spears, Paris Hilton and Prince Harry. What a phucking opportunist.
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:44 PM
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Their press release shows a real understanding of racing when they said " Barbaro, winner of the Kentucky Derby by the largest margin of victory since 1946, was considered a shoe-in for the Triple Crown and the English Derby. "

Nothing like someone desperate for attention. Shame on NYC for allowing this type of desperate attention getting crap to get public funds as well as a public display.
I also liked his other sculptures.....Britney Spears, Paris Hilton and Prince Harry. What a phucking opportunist.
I second this notion. What a sick f*ck. This shouldn't be allowed on public lands.
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:48 PM
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Art is art....and the artist has the right to express himself as he wishes. The people in the wrong are those in NYC that have granted him public funds and public grounds for exposure.

Hopefully it is not too late to bring this to the attention of the right people and have this mistake corrected.
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:52 PM
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Correct... he can do what he wants in his own private gallery but not on public money/lands, ESPECIALLY mine and ESPECIALLY this subject.

Only slightly less disturbing than the "artist" who collected his own "shots" as "art".
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Old 01-24-2008, 01:25 PM
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Art is art....and the artist has the right to express himself as he wishes. The people in the wrong are those in NYC that have granted him public funds and public grounds for exposure.

Hopefully it is not too late to bring this to the attention of the right people and have this mistake corrected.
Fair enough, I was being pissy... it's art and i don't have to like it, look at it, etc. but sometimes i think the word art is used as an excuse for propaganda, self-promotion, etc.

Agree with all the posts on here....
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Old 01-24-2008, 10:52 AM
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to bizarre for me.
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Unbelievable. One of the sickest things I have seen.

RIP Barbaro, and please forgive pathetic humans such as this 'artist'.
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Old 01-24-2008, 11:43 AM
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For anyone who didn't bother clicking on the link, his other "works" include.....


" a nude Britney Spears giving birth on a bearskin rug, an interactive autopsy of Paris Hilton with removable organs, and a war dead Prince Harry clutching the cameo-locket of his late mother Princess Diana.

I have no problem with the way an artist chooses to depict his subject... freedom of expression.

That said, this ain't art. It's an attempt at shock, propaganda, and it uses and belittles the memory of Barbaro and his fight for life, demeaning it and wrapping it up into a little package for the non-racing world to see. Eight months of heroic deeds and this is the "artist" they choose? This is the "work" they okay?

Shame on them.

I have a story and I've wanted to post it but there was never the appropriate thread... I think this one will do.

After a horse i loved broke down, i was telling a friend about him.... a profesional, guy in his 40's, educated... we had never talked about racing before.

I was stunned.... he actually said "so they shot him on the track?".

He was serious.

This world we live in... these people that don't follow racing... they don't know. They don't know at all and they never will.

Where i live racing has such a bad rap.

So while i like to think the good people of New York, my home town, won't be suckered in and fooled by this kinda **** I wonder.....

Rest in peace, Barbaro. What A Lost Texan said.....
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Old 01-24-2008, 12:38 PM
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"It was reported that in the end, Barbaro was biting at people before he was finally allowed to die with dignity."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he a 'bitey' type of horse anyway? It is ridiculous how people get this stuff turned around.
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Old 01-24-2008, 06:58 PM
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Unbelievable. One of the sickest things I have seen.

RIP Barbaro, and please forgive pathetic humans such as this 'artist'.
Totally agree!
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Old 01-24-2008, 07:12 PM
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Steve or BTW ... anybody know who to contact in NY gov offices to register objection?
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Old 01-24-2008, 07:17 PM
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I don't know, feels like there are quite a lot of far sicker things out there. It's art....whether we like it or not. It's opportunistic....which seems to be what this artist excels at.

The City also shouldn't allow a memorial for a stricken animal in Central Park to be used in this manner and tying Barbaro to it makes little or no genuine sense. The people behind this are stealing this opportunity in a manner that simply shouldn't be permitted by the City of New York.
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Old 01-24-2008, 08:11 PM
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http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...080/1002/rss04

Excerpt.....

A spokeswoman for the New York City Department of Parks & Recreation said it has not received an application for a special event permit or a temporary public art permit allowing the unveiling.

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I wonder if there's a chance it'll be denied... (?).

No idea how such things work.
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Unbelievable. One of the sickest things I have seen.
Why?, because he used the name Barbaro in his exhibit? If it was called 'a procrastinators merry-go-round' would you be offended?

To my untrained eye, it looked like someone got a start on making a Merry-Go-Round, but got bored and quit after just having the basic structure of two horses finished.

Much ado about nothing.
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Why?, because he used the name Barbaro in his exhibit? If it was called 'a procrastinators merry-go-round' would you be offended?

To my untrained eye, it looked like someone got a start on making a Merry-Go-Round, but got bored and quit after just having the basic structure of two horses finished.

Much ado about nothing.
This really made me laugh.
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Good art is supposed to produce emotion. That's just emotion I don't want to have.
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i think his art is amateurish at best.

but i would like to see the disclosure of breakdowns.

it is truly the worst part about horse racing.
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Old 01-29-2008, 01:42 AM
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But, do you want to support this law?

I think people that truely love animals should be very, very careful of the animal-related causes and organizations they support - if you want to retain the right to have animals.

This statue, and BarbarosLaw, is (my opinion) a blatant exploitation of a famous horse for no reason other than furthering an animal rights agenda (not animal welfare, and yes, those two concepts are entirely different) from people that want horse racing stopped. Note the phrases they choose to use, the accusations they throw at the Jacksons and New Bolton.

I'll bet "gallery co-director" David Kesting doesn't even know which end of a horse bites and which end kicks, let alone is able to recognize a horses' ass when he looks in the mirror.

From the www.barbaroslaw website:

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Barbaro’s Law

The Memorial’s website, www.BarbarosLaw.com, provides an online petition urging Congress to pass a law that would arm consumers with the truth about the perils of horseracing by requiring racetracks to disclose race-related injury and fatality statistics. “Informed race patrons may choose to avoid contributing to the breakdown and destruction of racehorses by not buying a ticket or placing a bet,” said gallery co-director, David Kesting.

Barbaro A ‘Champion’ For Right to Die

Barbaro, the euthanized champion racehorse, is an emblem for the Right To Die and Death With Dignity movements in the monument scheduled for the Central Park unveiling in April. “The Barbaro Memorial for the Right to Die” by controversial sculptor Daniel Edwards is a tribute to the late Triple Crown contender and is dedicated to the institution of euthanasia, says Leo Kesting Gallery. Barbaro was euthanized after every option for saving him was explored, well into a painful existence.

“A suffering horse cannot call Dr. Kevorkian for an assisted suicide, because like Terry Schiavo, the ailing horse cannot speak for itself,” said gallery co-director, David Kesting. It was reported that in the end, Barbaro was biting at people before he was finally allowed to die with dignity.

”We believe a memorial dedicated to the Right to Die will encourage horse owners to forego their own self-interests and act mercifully on behalf of their suffering horse,” said gallery co-director, John Leo.

“If Barbaro has taught us anything, it is that horses deserve our compassion first.”

Barbaro, winner of the Kentucky Derby by the largest margin of victory since 1946, was considered a shoe-in for The Triple Crown and the English Derby, fuelling speculation his life was prolonged for the earning of stud fees.

Daniel Edwards’s previous bronze of a thoroughbred champ titled “The Last Triple Crown Winner,” is expected to be rededicated in Louisville, Kentucky this year in observance of the thirtieth anniversary of “Affirmed’s” achievement.
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