Kansas reverting to form

[Cannon Shell]

they are done...

[Cannon Shell]

And I have no doubt that Hawaii could beat either of these 2 teams...

[The Bid]

I agree with you Cannon, not real impressed. Hopefully the Buckeyes can back in and drill WVU

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Bid

I agree with you Cannon, not real impressed. Hopefully the Buckeyes can back in and drill WVU

I would much rather see OSU/WVU than either of these 2 teams again.

[The Bid]

This is the first time Ive seen these two teams play football, Im used to these two squaring off at hoops. Seeing a #2 and #4 next to their names just doesnt look right.

[ddthetide]

the big 8 still belongs to oklahoma and texas.
CS, just in case, i made some phone calls to rent an RV to follow you on your walk to ku to buy those cheeseburgers.

[Cannon Shell]

Just off the top of my head what about this 16 team playoff
1. WVU vs 16. S. FL (revenge game for only WVU loss)(Outback Bowl)
2. Mizzou vs. 15.Tennessee (Big 12 vs. SEC)(Peach/Chik Fil a Bowl)
3. Ohio St vs. 14. Illinois (revenge game for OSU loss)(Gator Bowl)
4. Georgia vs. 13. Arizona State (SEC vs Pac 10)(Sun Bowl)
5. LSU vs. 12. Boston College (former number 1 vs. former number 2)(Alamo Bowl)
6. USC vs. 11. Hawaii (Best team? vs. unbeaten team)(Holiday Bowl)
7. Va Tech vs. Kansas (overrated ACC team vs overrated Big 12 team)(Capital One Bowl))
8. Oklahoma vs. Florida (Big 12 vs Heisman winner)(Cotton Bowl)

Potential 2nd round matchups
WVU vs Oklahoma (Orange Bowl) or if there are upsets S. FL vs FL (how big of an Orange Bowl would that be?)
Mizzou vs Va Tech (Fiesta Bowl) or Mizzou vs Kansas rematch
Ohio State vs USC (Rose Bowl) Traditional matchup
Georgia vs LSU (Sugar Bowl) What should have been the SEC title game

Potential semi finals (Final 4)
WVU vs LSU or FL vs LSU rematch (or what a game WVU vs FL would be)
Mizzou vs Ohio State (for the Bid)

Final
WVU vs Ohio State

I guess we may get without my playoff scenario

[ALostTexan]

Very, very ugly. On the other hand, WVU looked pretty damn good...

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

And I have no doubt that Hawaii could beat either of these 2 teams...

You can't be serious...you're talking about a team that outside the island had to go to overtime to beat Louisiana Tech and San Jose State, and kick a last play 45 yard field goal to beat Nevada. They would not hold either Missouri or Kansas under 50 off the island.

Missouri is as good as anyone in the country. They rolled up 40 on an Illinois team OSU couldn't move the ball on. We'll see what happens next week. I think OU with Bradford is as good as anyone as well. That was a bad break when they lost him against T Tech.

You are badly, badly underrating those two teams that played last night. I was very impressed with both of them. It all came down to Kansas missing their field goals and turning the ball over and Missouri didn't miss theirs or turn it over. Either one of those teams would mutilate Ohio State. (Didn't you see OSU against the Florida spread last year?? either one could score as many ponts as they needed to score against them.) these teams aren't the big 10 crap offenses like MSU, PSU, Meat chicken, Wisconsin...they'd be playing....they didn't fare too well against the one spread like offense they did face in Illinois.

[horseofcourse]

(mangino not being in the championship game has upset me more than I thought it would!!)

[The Bid]

We will get to see Ohio State drill one of those 2 teams soon

Originally Posted by The Bid

We will get to see Ohio State drill one of those 2 teams soon

I know this is not a logical way to look at matchups but when its all you got... Missouri drilled the team that drilled Ohio State.

Ohio State may have unwittingly found a way to get to the BCS championship. Dont play any games at the end of the season. Boy it will be great to see Ohio State play in the BCS championship after sitting on the shelf for about two months.

The flippin bowls have to turn into a playoff system. This waiting around watching all these crap bowls is ridiculous. We have no idea what type of teams we will see. Only two months to prepare. Absurd.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by The Bid

We will get to see Ohio State drill one of those 2 teams soon

Ohio State will be playing West Virginia or USC either in the National Championship game or Rose Bowl. They have zero shot of playing Kansas or Missouri unless pigs sprout wings and Pitt beats West Virginia in Morgantown. That will certainly not happen.

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by The Bid

We will get to see Ohio State drill one of those 2 teams soon

Mizzou is two TD's better than Ohio St.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

You can't be serious...you're talking about a team that outside the island had to go to overtime to beat Louisiana Tech and San Jose State, and kick a last play 45 yard field goal to beat Nevada. They would not hold either Missouri or Kansas under 50 off the island.

Missouri is as good as anyone in the country. They rolled up 40 on an Illinois team OSU couldn't move the ball on. We'll see what happens next week. I think OU with Bradford is as good as anyone as well. That was a bad break when they lost him against T Tech.

You are badly, badly underrating those two teams that played last night. I was very impressed with both of them. It all came down to Kansas missing their field goals and turning the ball over and Missouri didn't miss theirs or turn it over. Either one of those teams would mutilate Ohio State. (Didn't you see OSU against the Florida spread last year?? either one could score as many ponts as they needed to score against them.) these teams aren't the big 10 crap offenses like MSU, PSU, Meat chicken, Wisconsin...they'd be playing....they didn't fare too well against the one spread like offense they did face in Illinois.

They played 2 of those games in miserable weather and one without their best player who happens to be the QB. I did not say they were the best team in the country or they should be in the BCS or championship game. I said simply that they could beat those teams which I believe to be true. If you dont think Hawaii would put up 40+ on those teams on a good field conditions you have missed the boat. There are no teams that I have seen play this year that could stop them from scoring, and scoring alot. At Hawaii where the conditions are always good, they can score alot of points. College teams just aren't built to defend that kind of offense which is why they are so successful despite having top talent. Though I would say that the recivers they have are as good at what they do as any in the college game. They run good routes and dont drop the ball and they can all run after the catch.

By the way USC would beat a combined team of Kansas and Missouri by 20.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They played 2 of those games in miserable weather and one without their best player who happens to be the QB. I did not say they were the best team in the country or they should be in the BCS or championship game. I said simply that they could beat those teams which I believe to be true. If you dont think Hawaii would put up 40+ on those teams on a good field conditions you have missed the boat. There are no teams that I have seen play this year that could stop them from scoring, and scoring alot. At Hawaii where the conditions are always good, they can score alot of points. College teams just aren't built to defend that kind of offense which is why they are so successful despite having top talent. Though I would say that the recivers they have are as good at what they do as any in the college game. They run good routes and dont drop the ball and they can all run after the catch.

By the way USC would beat a combined team of Kansas and Missouri by 20.

I have no doubt Hawaii could score against either Missouri or Kansas, what I doubt is their ability to ever stop either of those offenses. They gave up 40 plus to La Tech and San Jose and nearly 30 to a Boise State that got beat by the PAC 10s worst team. Missouri putting up over 30 against Illinois, Oklahoma, Kansas...over 50 against colorado, Texas Tech is simply better than whom Hawaii was scoring against. Missouri has a better offense than Hawaii no matter how good Hawaii is. I"m pretty confident Missouri would score as many as they needed to to beat Hawaii. Of course USC would beat a combined Missouri/Kansas team by over 20...how many times has Reesing thrown to Maclin or has Daniel tossed to the Ks receivers?? If they played ONLY the Missouri team they would get beat!!

[ddthetide]

here's an interesting piece from yahoo sport's dan wetzel.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_...yhoo&type=lgns