barbaro recovery

videogirl10 · #1 07-12-2006, 08:50 AM

let me just start off by saying, i hope this doesn't happen at all, but say he keeps having complications, how long will the vets/owners let him suffer?
i know that he is a very special horse and many want him to make it, but what if things start going wrong. i really hope he makes it, but i would hate for him to go through suffering just to keep him alive.

i am not trying to be negative, so please don't think i want him to die.

Cajungator26 · #2 07-12-2006, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by videogirl10

let me just start off by saying, i hope this doesn't happen at all, but say he keeps having complications, how long will the vets/owners let him suffer?
i know that he is a very special horse and many want him to make it, but what if things start going wrong. i really hope he makes it, but i would hate for him to go through suffering just to keep him alive.

i am not trying to be negative, so please don't think i want him to die.

That depends on what you consider "suffering."

#3 07-12-2006, 08:52 AM

You will hear some news today. That is all I can say.

videogirl10 · #4 07-12-2006, 08:55 AM

i am just asking, how far are they willing to go to make sure he lives...i know they are trying their hardest to save him, but where do you draw the line.

Cajungator26 · #5 07-12-2006, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by videogirl10

i am just asking, how far are they willing to go to make sure he lives...i know they are trying their hardest to save him, but where do you draw the line.

MANY would have drawn the line the day of the accident.

Cajungator26 · #6 07-12-2006, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by boldruler

You will hear some news today. That is all I can say.

I just hope they do what is right for the horse.

blackthroatedwind · #7 07-12-2006, 09:04 AM

In keeping with previous helpful comments in this thread....

The sun will set sometime this evening. That's all I can say. ( I'm an insider....don't ya know ).

#8 07-12-2006, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

In keeping with previous helpful comments in this thread....

The sun will set sometime this evening. That's all I can say. ( I'm an insider....don't ya know ).

Obviously you aren't, because you wouldn't even be joking about it.

#9 07-12-2006, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

In keeping with previous helpful comments in this thread....

The sun will set sometime this evening. That's all I can say. ( I'm an insider....don't ya know ).

If you were literally talking about the sun, I apologize for being a little rude. I thought you were using your term "the sun will set sometime this evening" in another way.

Cajungator26 · #10 07-12-2006, 09:41 AM

Well, here's a positive article:

http://www.suntimes.com/output/horse...pt-barb12.html

Dunbar · #11 07-12-2006, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Well, here's a positive article:

http://www.suntimes.com/output/horse...pt-barb12.html

Cajungator, I think that info was earlier than the UPenn release, which I, too, found troubling.

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

In keeping with previous helpful comments in this thread....

The sun will set sometime this evening. That's all I can say. ( I'm an insider....don't ya know ).

The first time I read that, I thought blacktw was alluding to very bad news this evening. (As in, 'the sun will set on Barbaro'). But I don't think that's what he meant at all. He was just using "the sun will set" as an example of something totally obvious.

I'm pointing this out because I might not be the only one who read it wrong, and the last thing we need is a misunderstanding on such a sensitive topic.

--Dunbar

LARHAGE · #12 07-12-2006, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by videogirl10

let me just start off by saying, i hope this doesn't happen at all, but say he keeps having complications, how long will the vets/owners let him suffer?
i know that he is a very special horse and many want him to make it, but what if things start going wrong. i really hope he makes it, but i would hate for him to go through suffering just to keep him alive.

i am not trying to be negative, so please don't think i want him to die.

Believe me, Barbaro will let them know when he has had enough. I have been there recently with a horse that despite intense pain made it evident she was not giving up, she pulled through and is doing miraculously today. If Barbaro continues to eat and shows interest in his surroundings and treats, than believe me he is not giving up.... you know when it's time to throw in the towel in these situations.

#13 07-12-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by LARHAGE

Believe me, Barbaro will let them know when he has had enough. I have been there recently with a horse that despite intense pain made it evident she was not giving up, she pulled through and is doing miraculously today. If Barbaro continues to eat and shows interest in his surroundings and treats, than believe me he is not giving up.... you know when it's time to throw in the towel in these situations.

I am no horseman, but the guy who keeps me in the loop said exactly what you said, and that the horse has given no indication of giving up.

blackthroatedwind · #14 07-12-2006, 12:05 PM

So, Bold Ruler, according to you it is OK for YOU to make unsubstantiated ( and since you make ZERO attempt to give any concrete examples AND names it can only be assumed they are unsubstantiatable ) but not OK for anyone else to have an opinion about Barbaro that YOU don't agree with.

You play by some set of rules.

#15 07-12-2006, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So, Bold Ruler, according to you it is OK for YOU to make unsubstantiated ( and since you make ZERO attempt to give any concrete examples AND names it can only be assumed they are unsubstantiatable ) but not OK for anyone else to have an opinion about Barbaro that YOU don't agree with.

You play by some set of rules.

It is a chatsite and people argue. What do you want? Example of what? How corrupt NYRA is? As for Barbaro, people post whatever they want. People who want to be negative can be, I am just arguing the positive side. Every argument I have about the horse is about information that can be seen as positive or negative. I just don't like negative people, so I argue the other side.

Trust me, there are tons of idiots out there that post things that already have him dead. I thought you were doing the same with your "sunset" comment. Last I checked, I apologized.

LARHAGE · #16 07-12-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler

I am no horseman, but the guy who keeps me in the loop said exactly what you said, and that the horse has given no indication of giving up.

I made a commitment to my horse that as long as she was willing to fight that I would go the whole way with her, some people probably woudn't have. It was emotionally draining to see her in pain, but at the same time she still had the look in her eyes of a horse that was not depressed. I did all kinds of things to keep her interested and happy, like buying a bunch of varieties of hays and hanging them in nets all over her stall to encourage her to stand on her feet, despite the pain. I had a small tv outside her stall, and a radio, hell you do ANYTHING you can do when you love something so much... and if that means letting go, than you do that too. The people closest to this horse know his heart, and they know when he has had enough. It's nobody else's business to question their ethics or the extent of their love. I wish more owners were like the Jacksons, and my heart and prayers go out to them.

Cajungator26 · #17 07-12-2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LARHAGE

I made a commitment to my horse that as long as she was willing to fight that I would go the whole way with her, some people probably woudn't have. It was emotionally draining to see her in pain, but at the same time she still had the look in her eyes of a horse that was not depressed. I did all kinds of things to keep her interested and happy, like buying a bunch of varieties of hays and hanging them in nets all over her stall to encourage her to stand on her feet, despite the pain. I had a small tv outside her stall, and a radio, hell you do ANYTHING you can do when you love something so much... and if that means letting go, than you do that too. The people closest to this horse know his heart, and they know when he has had enough. It's nobody else's business to question their ethics or the extent of their love. I wish more owners were like the Jacksons, and my heart and prayers go out to them.

Best post all day and I agree 100%.

Downthestretch55 · #18 07-12-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LARHAGE

I made a commitment to my horse that as long as she was willing to fight that I would go the whole way with her, some people probably woudn't have. It was emotionally draining to see her in pain, but at the same time she still had the look in her eyes of a horse that was not depressed. I did all kinds of things to keep her interested and happy, like buying a bunch of varieties of hays and hanging them in nets all over her stall to encourage her to stand on her feet, despite the pain. I had a small tv outside her stall, and a radio, hell you do ANYTHING you can do when you love something so much... and if that means letting go, than you do that too. The people closest to this horse know his heart, and they know when he has had enough. It's nobody else's business to question their ethics or the extent of their love. I wish more owners were like the Jacksons, and my heart and prayers go out to them.

So right Larhage.
Words spoken from the heart.
Good thoughts for Barbaro. Seems that he's a long way from finding his way out of the woods, but if there's a path,I hope he finds it.
As I'm sure that those that love him do also.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #19 07-12-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LARHAGE

I made a commitment to my horse that as long as she was willing to fight that I would go the whole way with her, some people probably woudn't have. It was emotionally draining to see her in pain, but at the same time she still had the look in her eyes of a horse that was not depressed. I did all kinds of things to keep her interested and happy, like buying a bunch of varieties of hays and hanging them in nets all over her stall to encourage her to stand on her feet, despite the pain. I had a small tv outside her stall, and a radio, hell you do ANYTHING you can do when you love something so much... and if that means letting go, than you do that too. The people closest to this horse know his heart, and they know when he has had enough. It's nobody else's business to question their ethics or the extent of their love. I wish more owners were like the Jacksons, and my heart and prayers go out to them.

Yep Larhage, I've been there too. I also wish that more owners were like the Jacksons. I agree with Gator...definitely the post of the day and maybe even the month. Touching.

Rupert Pupkin · #20 07-12-2006, 12:50 PM

I have a question that I have been asking ever since the injury but nobody has given me an answer. If the worst case scenario happens and they can't save the leg, why do they have to put him down? Why can't they try giving him a prosthetic leg? There have been horses that got prosthetic legs and did fine. There was a horse in California named Boitron and I believe he even stood at stud with a prosthetic leg. I believe it was a back leg that he had lost. Why isn't a prosthetic leg an option for Barbaro?