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Old 09-24-2007, 12:26 AM
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Default United Front for AZ and Horseplayers v. AZ-HB 2694

At this point, most are very well aware of what has occured in the past few months in Arizona. If not, let me quickly review. The State Legislature in May passed HB 2694, which in essense makes it not only unlawful for horseplayers in the state to wager on races using ADW's, but makes it a Class 6 Felony, equilivent to indicent exposure, sexual conduct with a minor, or placing a person in iniment danger.

The implications on this are devestating to the entire world of horse racing. To the horsemen all states, this bill will be detrimental to the overall wagering handle, and regardless of how insignificant Arizona may seem now, this is one of the fastest-growing states in the nation, and the impact will only grow into the future. This also sets a very bad precedent, as this move can very well be taken in any other state in the nation. Finally, this move is very bad for the horsemen and live tracks in Arizona itself, as this has already caused an unpleasant rift between horseplayers and all involved parties in Arizona, and a blame-game is occuring as we speak.

The time is now for the horseplayers of Arizona and the rest of the nation to make a stand against this form of legislation. The current battleground is Arizona, and I am asking for a unified front in this state. Tomorrow morning, I plan on requesting a meeting with the Arizona Horsemen's Horseman’s Benevolent & Protective Association’s (AZHBPA) is discuss the current situation. I believe that the best course of action right now is a diplomatic effort to overturn this bill, and I and others very well connected to the situation believe that the horsemen are the best means of achieving diplomacy.

I am asking that the horseplayers and members of DerbyTrail.com unite to form a single voice.

I am asking that anyone that agrees that HB 2694 is wrong to please reply to this thread with your name, location, and any comments you wish to forward to the AZHBPA. Like others have done in the past with petitions, if you would like to use your real name and location but not post it, please fee free to PM me and I will write it in.

I am honestly not sure where the AZHBPA stands on this issue, and the meeting I will be requesting is only to share the information that I collect and make them aware that the online community is outraged with the events of HB 2694.

I will update this thread and any others that are important in the next few days. I appreciate any assistance that members give, and if anyone would like to talk over the phone or even in person, please feel free to PM me and I will provide contact information.

This is an important issue to all horseplayers, and we must take a united stand against this and similar legislation.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:39 AM
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Kyl is an idiot
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:57 AM
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amen to that. kyl is a f-u-c-k-i-n-g a-s-s-h-o-l-e of the highest order.
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:02 AM
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For what it's worth, I disagree with Senator Jon Kyl on most everything, but this bill was passed in the state legislature, so Kyl can't be blamed for this one. I am sure he is happy, but not to blame on this one...
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:19 AM
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One thing: I'm not sure how much it would help, but you might have the whole University of Arizona at Tucson on your side if you need support in some way:
http://ag.arizona.edu/rtip
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:24 AM
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That is just sick. Makes it sound like betting some horse races is suddenly akin to holding up someone at gunpoint.

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Old 09-24-2007, 10:00 AM
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One thing: I'm not sure how much it would help, but you might have the whole University of Arizona at Tucson on your side if you need support in some way:
http://ag.arizona.edu/rtip
whats sick is it sounds like Turf Paradise pushed FOR this law.....
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:59 AM
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I would be interested in hearing what the AZHBPA has to say as well. They probably dont care if I know horsemen.
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:03 PM
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Update

I just spoke to an official with the AZHBPA. He is willing to sit down with me next week, after returning to Arizona, to discuss the results of this bill and the reaction online to the bill. I have stressed that the online community does not want this to have to get to an official boycott of the Arizona tracks, and that so far the bill has created a great deal of negative publicity for live racing in Arizona.

I will give more updates as they occur...
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:57 PM
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At this point, most are very well aware of what has occured in the past few months in Arizona. If not, let me quickly review. The State Legislature in May passed HB 2694, which in essense makes it not only unlawful for horseplayers in the state to wager on races using ADW's, but makes it a Class 6 Felony, equilivent to indicent exposure, sexual conduct with a minor, or placing a person in iniment danger.

The implications on this are devestating to the entire world of horse racing. To the horsemen all states, this bill will be detrimental to the overall wagering handle, and regardless of how insignificant Arizona may seem now, this is one of the fastest-growing states in the nation, and the impact will only grow into the future. This also sets a very bad precedent, as this move can very well be taken in any other state in the nation. Finally, this move is very bad for the horsemen and live tracks in Arizona itself, as this has already caused an unpleasant rift between horseplayers and all involved parties in Arizona, and a blame-game is occuring as we speak.

The time is now for the horseplayers of Arizona and the rest of the nation to make a stand against this form of legislation. The current battleground is Arizona, and I am asking for a unified front in this state. Tomorrow morning, I plan on requesting a meeting with the Arizona Horsemen's Horseman’s Benevolent & Protective Association’s (AZHBPA) is discuss the current situation. I believe that the best course of action right now is a diplomatic effort to overturn this bill, and I and others very well connected to the situation believe that the horsemen are the best means of achieving diplomacy.

I am asking that the horseplayers and members of DerbyTrail.com unite to form a single voice.

I am asking that anyone that agrees that HB 2694 is wrong to please reply to this thread with your name, location, and any comments you wish to forward to the AZHBPA. Like others have done in the past with petitions, if you would like to use your real name and location but not post it, please fee free to PM me and I will write it in.

I am honestly not sure where the AZHBPA stands on this issue, and the meeting I will be requesting is only to share the information that I collect and make them aware that the online community is outraged with the events of HB 2694.

I will update this thread and any others that are important in the next few days. I appreciate any assistance that members give, and if anyone would like to talk over the phone or even in person, please feel free to PM me and I will provide contact information.

This is an important issue to all horseplayers, and we must take a united stand against this and similar legislation.

I will PM you at a later time. However, I find it fascinating that Arizona hosts the big simulcasting conference each year.
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