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Old 06-28-2006, 12:34 AM
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Default Steven Crist's New Book

I Just Finished The New Book By Steve Crist, Exotic Betting.....i Didn't Think Much Of It. Too Much Talk About Nothing A 20 Year Gambler Would Already Know. The Only Good Parts Were Finding Out How Much This Guy Wastes His Money! Sorry, I Will Continue To Be The Dollar King And Wait For The Big Score, Not Plunge Like Crist Does.
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Old 06-28-2006, 12:50 AM
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LOL..Let the war begin.
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Old 06-28-2006, 07:54 AM
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I just ordered the book yesterday, I'll reserve judgement on it till I read it of course. After reading the bio and exerpt from the book, I got the impression that it would be for me personally. Now a 20 year vet like yourself, I would think that maybe you wouldn't get as much out of it.
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Old 06-28-2006, 08:49 AM
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I personally don't think a book teaches you how to gamble or handicap. it is ALL EXPERIENCE...Poker is the same way

Personally, all the poker on TV and all the information on the net should be used as tool and you should just soak it in, and play the way you play.

Poker-wise, I don't care about pot odds or 5 people in the pot, I play the player.....Three weeks ago in a live tourney at my buddies house. I raised, got re-raised, and RE-raised the guy back, all pre-flop....THE GUY laid down AK into my K4. he showed me he was laying down AK, said "THIS IS A GREAT FOLD" I showed him what I had, the rest of his chips lasted an hour.....pissed away 25% of his stake thinking I would fold

I personally love how much this crap is on TV and these online players. NONE of them have had a horse rushing on the outside or a horse dying on the lead, or thrown $100 on a 20/1 and have the lead to the end and get nipped..They stare at a computer....You got to go through the RANGE of emotions that happen while gambling before you earn the respect of the gambling gods.

The only way to succced at this crap is to be gambling tested and to me that means the following

1) Multiple heart attacks through out the day
2) Inquiried out of a $2500 pick four
3) 3 hours of BAD cards
4) Betting Shane Laviolette
5) Betting Lori Keith
6) Missing credit card payment
7) Going to the ATM multiple times trying to withdrawal $500 because you SWEAR it is in there
8) Getting bullied and taunted at a card table
9) Multiple 'tilt' episodes throughout the years
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Old 06-28-2006, 08:53 AM
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Experience is everything is gambling. To me, betting the horses is knowing when not to bet. Knowing your stregths and finding a race that plays into your strengths is the most important part of playing the ponies.
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Old 06-28-2006, 09:43 AM
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Experience is everything is gambling. To me, betting the horses is knowing when not to bet. Knowing your stregths and finding a race that plays into your strengths is the most important part of playing the ponies.

MY GOD, IS SOMEBODY GOING TO BUST OUT THE KENNY ROGERS ALREADY!!

Fine.... I'll do it.......

"You got to know when to holdem, know when to fold em. Know when to walk away, know when to run".........
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Old 06-28-2006, 09:45 AM
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Experience is everything is gambling. To me, betting the horses is knowing when not to bet. Knowing your stregths and finding a race that plays into your strengths is the most important part of playing the ponies.
Disagree pretty strongly with both you and Scavs (who I hope is at least partly joking). Experience is very important, but it is not "everything in gambling". You are very unlikely to learn how to beat any game by experience alone.

I very seriously doubt there is a current successful blackjack player in the entire world who is self-taught. You have to either have read a good book or have the benefit of a good mentor, or both.

I'm confident that the vast majority of successful poker players have read good books.

There is no substitute for experience, but trying to be successful from the ground up with experience alone in any area of gambling is a foolish undertaking, IMO.

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