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![]() "Believe me, I didn’t think he was going that fast."
I like Hard Spun, but I don't like that quote. I could live with it if the work was 59 or so, but 57? What does that say about his internal clock? Shouldn't the average jockey know when he just worked a horse in 57 & change? Pino is the only thing that worries me about Hard Spun. |
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![]() Pino is going to panic and send this ****er early.....
I wish they had a bet on that |
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I applaud Jones for getting him ready for what he is about to do. He is going to be pumping around there and will still have the lead when they come around the turn. Then it will get interesting. |
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![]() I'm not following, what is Jones trying to do?
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I could be wrong though. Feel free to add your opinion. I am just speculating on how it will pan out. |
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![]() It is easy for me to sit back and say I would take Cowtown Cat, Hard Spun, Teuflesburg, etc... off the pace and let them make the overused "one good run."
But this guy Jones has never been to a Derby. He was just at Ellis Park last year. Trained for 25 years and hasn't even been close. This is his shot man. Pino the same. If he currently is thinking that they will lay off the pace and let the race shape up, I think by Friday night he will change his tune. I know one thing. If I were him, I would want to see that ****er out front and unhampered by the 19 other runners. If he really has that one horse, would he want him crowded in with 10 others at the turn? He will send and lead at the turn, possibly the 1/8th pole. I think this happens a lot in the Derby. "By god, I've got one shot and I'll be damned if I want to watch the ****er never placed better than eighth. Just give him a shot to win. Put him out front." |
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![]() Just to clarify, I don't have a big problem with the time of the work, just the fact that Pino apparently didn't know how fast he was going.
I would think that after that many rides, you would be able to work a horse for 5 furlongs & be able to come back & say, "that was a 57" or something like that. Maybe I'm in a dream world, but this is a long race & I want my jockey to know when the pace is a 57, or a 1:09, etc, etc...and respond appropriately. |
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![]() I think he meant what he said in the sense that it didn't feel like HS was working that hard. . .
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Now, what if, on a particular day, the horse is putting forth the same effort YET going faster? (It feel better; it likes the track; etc.) There are 2 factors in play here: 1) the speed they're actually travelling -- and here the jock should be able to distinguish between faster and slower speed 2) the speed in relation to the effort --- not so easy a task as one could undertand how a jock would conflate speed with effort. But, you're probably correct, PINO is incompetent. You can easily prove this by getting out there on a track or road bike, WITHOUT a speedometer, and readily predict your speed on any given day. You could, in a perfect world. |
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![]() I'm not saying he's incompetent, I was just surprised by the quote. Maybe it just didn't come out right. I wish he would have just said, "it was a great work" and leave it at that. Now I'm questioning his internal clock a little bit. There's no doubt that some jockeys clocks are better than others. I always thought Gary Stevens was one of the best.
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![]() What happened to the old statement about trying to rate him at Oaklawn? Now it's just a toss?? Like I said after the Oaklawn trip, Did Pino loose that race?, o no, he did what the trainer said to do, try to rate him. Boy how things change in a hurry, and how they toss the old excuses.
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