Flower Alley

Well I guess I was right about it being by design that he started late this year, Pletcher said no setbacks on the front page of the DRF today. he just ran on a wet track in his 2006 debut and just switched leads late and crushed em with a great last 1/4. All you guys who were chiding me about saying hes the best this year, no doubt, and where has he been blah blah. Well hes back, and back in style and hes going to be the head honcho this year!!!!!! Eat that BOYS!!!

Good luck trying to beat this horse this years guys, you will need it. Be even fitter on Whitney day and this was a PERFECT prep to get him there. Noone will touch this horse this year, hes got HOY written all over him.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Good luck trying to beat this horse this years guys, you will need it. Be even fitter on Whitney day and this was a PERFECT prep to get him there. Noone will touch this horse this year, hes got HOY written all over him.

Bernardini will walk all over him in the fall.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Well I guess I was right about it being by design that he started late this year, Pletcher said no setbacks on the front page of the DRF today. he just ran on a wet track in his 2006 debut and just switched leads late and crushed em with a great last 1/4. All you guys who were chiding me about saying hes the best this year, no doubt, and where has he been blah blah. Well hes back, and back in style and hes going to be the head honcho this year!!!!!! Eat that BOYS!!!

Yeah he looked pretty good today. He looked rusty when trying to switch leads, but once he did he just took off. Then again, he didnt beat much but I dont understand why anyone would not believe he is the top older horse in the nation.

[Gander]

So beating Park Avenue Ball and Gold and Roses proves hes best?

Glad his return went okay, I didnt see the race. Too busy seeing the Sox win their 8th straight

[Gander]

He does love Saratoga and I would agree he will be tough to beat on Whitney Day. Unless Lava Man flies here.

Who would he run against?

[Thunder Gulch]

Been on him since Travers last year and waiting for him to develop into the best horse in the country...I think he's almost there now.

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

Been on him since Travers last year and waiting for him to develop into the best horse in the country...I think he's almost there now.

Thunder,
remember the trash talkers who were having a ball knocking him? Well what a fun summer and fall we are going to have torturing them as he crushes fields. We know who they are!!!!

Originally Posted by oracle80

Thunder,
remember the trash talkers who were having a ball knocking him? Well what a fun summer and fall we are going to have torturing them as he crushes fields. We know who they are!!!!

Bernardini should just get better and better considering his breeding. He might already be better than Flower Alley. I wouldn't go counting out Rathor in the Whitney either.

Originally Posted by Gander

He does love Saratoga and I would agree he will be tough to beat on Whitney Day. Unless Lava Man flies here.

Who would he run against?

I cant see someone beating Flower Alley at Saratoga. In fact, I dont see this horse losing until the Classic. I cant see Lava Flying in to take on Flower Alley--why would he. The older division SUCKS this year. Unless someone steps up, it is going to be boring. Maybe Bellamy Road who is training down in Florida can do something (but I doubt it).

Pletcher just said he is going to the Whitney and then the Woodward.

Originally Posted by Gander

He does love Saratoga and I would agree he will be tough to beat on Whitney Day. Unless Lava Man flies here.

Who would he run against?

yeah right, Lava Man. good luck. This horse is the goods.

Originally Posted by Gander

So beating Park Avenue Ball and Gold and Roses proves hes best?

Glad his return went okay, I didnt see the race. Too busy seeing the Sox win their 8th straight

Come on Tim you can do better than that. Talking all that trash about him. yeah they werent grade one horses but they were a salty bunch. Johnny ride him late and he exploded in two strides and just took off, looked like a monster physically as well, hes really filled out. Two turn mile in 1:35:4 on a wet track that hasnt been very fast since becoming sloppy and sealed. Trust me its a big fig to come back on but no so big that he will bounce next time. It was absolutely the most perfect comeback race that a trainer could hope for. WHitney is next, and hes going to crush them.

[Gander]

What exact trash did I talk except for the fact that a layed off horse doesnt get kudos for being layed up. I give more credit to Lava Man for beating nothings on the West Coast than to a horse who didnt run for 9 months.

I never said this horse wasnt very talented. I know it and it looks like he came back strong and the rest of the older horses on the east coast are going to have their work cut out for them.

Originally Posted by Gander

What exact trash did I talk except for the fact that a layed off horse doesnt get kudos for being layed up. I give more credit to Lava Man for beating nothings on the West Coast than to a horse who didnt run for 9 months.

I never said this horse wasnt very talented. I know it and it looks like he came back strong and the rest of the older horses on the east coast are going to have their work cut out for them.

Tim you knocked his layoff and quite frankly you knock Todd all the time. What he did was brilliant. Hoy isnt won the 1st half of the year and it sure isnt won in Dubai. Its won in races like the BCC. He designed a second half of the year campaign aimed at having him dead fit and sharp in the BCC yet not over the top in his form. And unlike GZ's very brief 4Yo campaign, this one will also have stops at The WHitney and the Woodward, maybe the JCGC. In any case, the knockers on Todd and this horse are gonna have it shoved down their throats pretty good this year. This horse may have been teh most underrated horse I have seen in years last year. Perhaps I am biased because I was told my someone who would know that he had a legit excuse in the JCGC that the press was never really told about, an airway problem where he displaced or entrapped. You chuck that race and his Jim Dandy, Travers and ERSPECIALLY his BCC where he finished far ahead of soem damn good horses while making the HOY work hard to get by him(and earn a huge sheet number in the process) was exteremly underrated by the "experts", lol. He was only three, and not many three year olds run a race like that in the BCC.
Hes going to be a terror from here on in and good luck to his opponents, they will certainly need it.

[sumitas]

i missed this lock today.

[Suffolk Shippers]

Originally Posted by Gander

So beating Park Avenue Ball and Gold and Roses proves hes best?

Glad his return went okay, I didnt see the race. Too busy seeing the Sox win their 8th straight

I think Flower Alley is also leader in the clubhouse for top handicapp horse, but I also was just watching David Ortiz be David Ortiz. Unstoppable.

[Gander]

LOL! Ortiz wins another game for the hot Sox!

8 in a row, all over NL teams! LOL!

Originally Posted by oracle80

Well I guess I was right about it being by design that he started late this year, Pletcher said no setbacks on the front page of the DRF today. he just ran on a wet track in his 2006 debut and just switched leads late and crushed em with a great last 1/4. All you guys who were chiding me about saying hes the best this year, no doubt, and where has he been blah blah. Well hes back, and back in style and hes going to be the head honcho this year!!!!!! Eat that BOYS!!!

Bernardini leaves more talent in his stall every morning than Flower Alley has all together....I, for one, still think somthing was bothering Flower Alley to not try to make the Gr. I Stephen Foster, especially since the BC Classic will be there this year....Pletcher won't admit it but everybody knows that he is one of the most tight-lipped trainers in the world...he wouldn't show his hand with any horse and especially a horse with a potential big-time stud deal on the horizon (I've had to interview him SEVERAL of times...he doesn't offer any information).....he's not the soundest animal on earth - that I can assure you of....I watched him train at CD during Derby week and he looked a little crabby to me....nice, big chestnut and he is talented, but you can have him as your Handicap division pick....I think Bernardini will break him in half in the JC Gold Cup before the BC if they both make it that far...

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Bernardini leaves more talent in his stall every morning than Flower Alley has all together....I, for one, still think somthing was bothering Flower Alley to not try to make the Gr. I Stephen Foster, especially since the BC Classic will be there this year....Pletcher won't admit it but everybody knows that he is one of the most tight-lipped trainers in the world...he wouldn't show his hand with any horse and especially a horse with a potential big-time stud deal on the horizon.....he's not the soundest animal on earth - that I can assure you of....I watched him train at CD during Derby week and he looked a little crabby to me....nice, big chestnut and he is talented, but you can have him as your Handicap division pick....I think Bernardini will break him in half in the JC Gold Cup before the BC if they both make it that far...

Ok Joel, Todds a liar. Great. He may be tight lipped but hes not a liar, there is a difference and his word is as good as anyones. If he says today point blank that there was no setback thats good enough for me. With all due respect I don't know you, but i do know Todd, and I have to take what he says as truth. Hes about as bright and honorable as anyone in this game. Tight lipped doesnt mean that he would lie and say there was no setback.

Wake me up when Bernadini beats a field where the main competitors dont get injured. Luxembourg went wrong in the Withers(you will notice he hasnt been seen since) and Bro Derek smashed his face in the gate and we all know what happened to Barbaro. Not saying he isnt very talented, but he has much to prove.