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POINTGIVEN1985 · #1 03-01-2007, 07:56 PM

Is he beatable, at this point ? i know alot of ppl wont call any horse unbeatable.... especially one who has already lost... but at this point is this horse beatable? im not sure he is, in his career he has done nothing wrong, only loss was his second career start in a grade 1 which is a huge step up, he lost to more seasoned more experinced horses that day. since then this horse has done nothing wrong he has toyed with rivals in his 2 races since and he seems to have improved a ton. this horse can set the pace, sit close and in my opinion he could probelly come from well back. i think we might be seeing another barbaro like horse in nobiz

Cajungator26 · #2 03-01-2007, 08:01 PM

I think he gets beat on Saturday. I like Drums of Thunder a lot, and the 7 horse, Divine Master is interesting to me as well. As much as I like Scat Daddy, I think he got the raw end of the deal with that post position and it's going to be that much tougher for him.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #3 03-01-2007, 08:03 PM

Hickory Hill Hoff · #4 03-01-2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I think he gets beat on Saturday. I like Drums of Thunder a lot, and the 7 horse, Divine Master is interesting to me as well. As much as I like Scat Daddy, I think he got the raw end of the deal with that post position and it's going to be that much tougher for him.

Drums of Thunder nips the "Biz" at the wire
Interesting runner is the "left coast" shipper; Stormello
looks like that's my trifecta box!

#5 03-01-2007, 09:56 PM

ADORE THE GOLD has not show his real potencial yet. As 2 years old he did the two turns with a class and his last two races has bean like a walk in the park.Dont left him out.

ArlJim78 · #6 03-01-2007, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by luismanzo

ADORE THE GOLD has not show his real potencial yet. As 2 years old he did the two turns with a class and his last two races has bean like a walk in the park.Dont left him out.

Luis, you are correct that he did the two turns at two, but there are some things to note. That was a relatively weak stakes race, and only a six horse field at Delaware Park where they didn't exactly run real fast in the early stages.
The shape of his next races scream sprinter to me. I am very very sceptical that he will be effective at this level going 9 furlongs. The outside draw seals the deal for me. I don't see him hitting the board.

#7 03-01-2007, 10:20 PM

I bet Prado will driving in the correct time (off the pace) because I see that most of his evolution has been controling his speed. Regarding the post condition, that will ad the gratification of his effort if he wins.

disappearingdan_akaplaya · #8 03-03-2007, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I think he gets beat on Saturday. I like Drums of Thunder a lot, and the 7 horse, Divine Master is interesting to me as well. As much as I like Scat Daddy, I think he got the raw end of the deal with that post position and it's going to be that much tougher for him.

i agree cajun drums of thunder is very intriguing, well obviously know alot more 2morrow. speaking of 2morrow its already here and i gotta get up for training in 4 hrs. horses and reading the damn form take up all my time

enjoy the race every1!

brianwspencer · #9 03-03-2007, 04:29 PM

Is it just me, or did Hal's My Hope stick around WAY LONGER than he should have?!

Great call on Scat Daddy for those of you who thought he was sitting on a big one!

brianwspencer · #10 03-02-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

To answer the intial question, of course he is beatable, but highly unlikely. Scat Daddy isn't going to win and I guess Drums of Thunder will put in a run and his post helps. Adore the Gold intrigued me until he drew out there. My question is what exactly is interesting about Divine Master? He has yet to run a race that would put him within 10 lengths of any of these horses.

Well, there was that one time he didn't lose ground in the stretch.....

I think he's pretty interesting for the bottom rungs of the 8fecta.

Cajungator26 · #11 03-02-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah, I mean hey I would love to find an interesting longshot in the race, I just don't see him.

Sorry... he's interesting to me LITERALLY as I saw him go through the OBS ring back in '05 and liked the way he looked. Love his sire too...

You boys should know me by now.

Cajungator26 · #12 03-02-2007, 07:54 PM

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Ahh, gotcha. I was actually hoping you had some sort of angle that I missed because he'll be huge odds tomorrow.

Nope, wish I did. If he looks good in the paddock tomorrow, I might take a chance for shits and grins, though.

brianwspencer · #13 03-02-2007, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Nope, wish I did. If he looks good in the paddock tomorrow, I might take a chance for shits and grins, though.

Dude, J, that is your angle.

Send me a text to let me know if he looks good. If he does, then let me know if you're going to bet him.

If you aren't going to, I will post a message from work assuring the entire forum that he is a mortal lock on the win end.

If you are going to, I will remind everyone to leave him off their tickets as he is then gauranteed to run up the track.

miraja2 · #14 03-01-2007, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

at this point is this horse beatable? im not sure he is.

You must be joking. Is he beatable? Secretariat and Spectacular Bid both lost in April through June of their three year old campaigns. Do you think he is THAT much better than those two? If you are really convinced that Nobiz is unbeatable.....I honestly don't know what to tell you....other than the fact that you are amazingly, unbelievably, and stunningly wrong.

Dunbar · #15 03-02-2007, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

Is he beatable, at this point ? i know alot of ppl wont call any horse unbeatable.... especially one who has already lost... but at this point is this horse beatable? im not sure he is, in his career he has done nothing wrong, only loss was his second career start in a grade 1 which is a huge step up, he lost to more seasoned more experinced horses that day. since then this horse has done nothing wrong he has toyed with rivals in his 2 races since and he seems to have improved a ton. this horse can set the pace, sit close and in my opinion he could probelly come from well back. i think we might be seeing another barbaro like horse in nobiz

Of course he's beatable. The only question is what are his fair odds? Would you truly not take 3-1 on the Field in this race?

--Dunbar

POINTGIVEN1985 · #16 03-02-2007, 07:48 AM

dunbar in this spot i would never take 3-1 on the field, i am not one to bet chalk but nobiz does not lose this saturday

#17 03-02-2007, 07:56 AM

I agree with pointgiven, No Biz has done nothing wrong at this point. Any horse can lose on any given day, however, even in the race he finished second, he had a bad trip and was probably best that day as well.

randallscott35 · #18 03-02-2007, 07:59 AM

I like the horse a lot and I'm a fan of Tagg. But to ask whether he can be beaten is ridiculous. Of course he can, he hasn't shown any world beater talent yet. Maybe he will, but right now he is a good horse in a below average crop.

POINTGIVEN1985 · #19 03-02-2007, 08:03 AM

i think your wrong, i think he's close to unbeatable

Dunbar · #20 03-02-2007, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

dunbar in this spot i would never take 3-1 on the field, i am not one to bet chalk but nobiz does not lose this saturday

Are you saying you will NOT bet him? That makes no sense to me, given the rest of your thinking. He will certainly go off at better than 1-3. If 3-1 on the Field is not a good bet, then 1-3 on NoBiz is a good bet. Jump on it.

--Dunbar