kip devile 9/2 vs. showing up 6/1

[mp3]

strange ml. i was hoping for a much better price on kd. they are REALLLLY high on this horse and they are expecting a huge effort.

Originally Posted by mp3

strange ml. i was hoping for a much better price on kd. they are REALLLLY high on this horse and they are expecting a huge effort.

Showing Up will be the favorite or second choice. You might get a price on KD because of his post. Does the horse even have a jockey yet?

[mp3]

they told me the jock who had been riding him in texas was able to get off his mounts and is going to ride him. the jocks name is quincy hamilton

Originally Posted by mp3

they told me the jock who had been riding him in texas was able to get off his mounts and is going to ride him. the jocks name is quincy hamilton

I'll take Cornelio over that guy any day of the week. Showing Up raced in a field of 19 last race, lets see how the others handle a big field. I honestly don't see this race being close.

[mp3]

you continue to make points I don't get. You like the fact that showing up raced in a big field and has gained that experience and are willing to disregard that he has never had experience racing on the turf. It is impossible to forecast a horse to gallop when never been over a surface in race conditions. The size of the field also helps KD more than SU because kd will be on the lead while SU will have to work his way through traffic. Not sure I am getting your points

Originally Posted by mp3

you continue to make points I don't get. You like the fact that showing up raced in a big field and has gained that experience and are willing to disregard that he has never had experience racing on the turf. It is impossible to forecast a horse to gallop when never been over a surface in race conditions. The size of the field also helps KD more than SU because kd will be on the lead while SU will have to work his way through traffic. Not sure I am getting your points

I can assure you of one thing, Showing Up is a better horse on the turf than on the dirt. SU can run on the lead or just off the lead. Did you miss the derby where he ran stride for stride with Barbaro until the last 1/8th mile. Too bad Barbaro isn't around, he would have won this one for fun, even if he had just raced in the Belmont. KD is going to have a tough time getting to the lead from post 14. This isn't the garbage he has been racing against in TX or at Remington Park. Firm turf and SU beats him by 10-12.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by boldruler

I'll take Cornelio over that guy any day of the week. Showing Up raced in a field of 19 last race, lets see how the others handle a big field. I honestly don't see this race being close.

Showing Up wins this for fun IMO.

[Gander]

Morning lines are no more than one person's opinion of what the odds will be when the race goes off. If you asked 5 guys to set the morning line for this race, you'd probably get 5 different prices on Kip Deville and Showing Up, ranging from 9/2 to 8/1 on Kip, and 5/2 to 6/1 on Showing Up.

Not sure why anyone even looks at them. They are definetly no barometer to gauge a race's odds.

Tim I completely don't understand what you just said. Stream Cat is not just a closer, hes a closer who is graded stakes winner with good figs. Are you really comparing him to Rock Lobster?
And what does love and Money have to do with deville? Am I missing something?

[Gander]

Same trainer is all Mike. No reason not to bet him but I just thought I'd bring it up because Love is Money burned a lot of people this weekend. Absolutely no relevance to this race.

The Lobster is right in the mix, if they go fast up front he has every right to be able to close into this. This is the kind of race that screams a price. Thinking maybe the Lobster goes off at 10/1, 12/1 at best.

Michael "The Mad Scientist" Dickinson's charge has a great chance to make a lot of noise in here.