Word on Jockey gate!

Left Bank · #1 01-09-2007, 04:53 PM

The gal on TVG today says the FBI is in on it now.Supposedly their are some races at Canterbury now also under suspicion,in addition to the ones at GLD.
That would explain Derek Bell's involvement now.Rumors I have heard for a few years now have him and some of the other jocks and their agents fixing races there.Just rumors,with lots of coincidence.
Anybody else hear anything?

#2 01-09-2007, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

The gal on TVG today says the FBI is in on it now.Supposedly their are some races at Canterbury now also under suspicion,in addition to the ones at GLD.
That would explain Derek Bell's involvement now.Rumors I have heard for a few years now have him and some of the other jocks and their agents fixing races there.Just rumors,with lots of coincidence.
Anybody else hear anything?

Yeah they've been in on it for quite some time.

blackthroatedwind · #3 01-09-2007, 04:54 PM

The FBI may be the source of the investigation.

Rudeboyelvis · #4 01-09-2007, 05:08 PM

I hope S. Caramouche is not implicated; we'll never hear the end of it...

Cannon Shell · #5 01-09-2007, 05:22 PM

I heard there was a jockey arrested today but have not been able to verify this

Left Bank · #6 01-09-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I heard there was a jockey arrested today but have not been able to verify this

Where or what track?

Cannon Shell · #7 01-09-2007, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

Where or what track?

In Fl but not at track, pretty good source but I DO NOT know if it is true

hoovesupsideyourhead · #8 01-09-2007, 06:03 PM

what no link..how could you..lol

Left Bank · #9 01-09-2007, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

In Fl but not at track, pretty good source but I DO NOT know if it is true

Well find out for us,your family.

AeWingnut · #10 01-09-2007, 07:05 PM

you know... there is the crowd that cries foul every stinkin time the chalk doesn't win and this is just more fuel for the fools.

I hope this is all over and done ASAP

pmayjr · #11 01-10-2007, 01:01 AM

I would be a little surprised that Derek Bell would feel the need to be in on a "rigged" race at Canterbury. He's been the leading rider there every year for like the last 5 or 6 years. The only reason he didn't win the riding title this past summer, was because he broke his wrist and missed half the summer. But he still had very solid stats for only being here for so long.

I just wish the public had more info on exactly the nature of these investigations. I know it involves a bunch of Florida riders regarding a race at Great Lakes Downs, but everything else is so vague and secretive. Either scrunge up some real info on these guys or let 'em ride. If they wanna keep the evidence secretive, the accused jocks should come public with the accusations to put heat on the people trying to keep them banned.

#12 01-10-2007, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

The gal on TVG today says the FBI is in on it now.Supposedly their are some races at Canterbury now also under suspicion,in addition to the ones at GLD.
That would explain Derek Bell's involvement now.Rumors I have heard for a few years now have him and some of the other jocks and their agents fixing races there.Just rumors,with lots of coincidence.
Anybody else hear anything?

She accidently said Canterbury, she meant to say Great Lakes. I corrected her on it and she announced that a bit later in the show.

jpops757 · #13 01-10-2007, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr

I would be a little surprised that Derek Bell would feel the need to be in on a "rigged" race at Canterbury. He's been the leading rider there every year for like the last 5 or 6 years. The only reason he didn't win the riding title this past summer, was because he broke his wrist and missed half the summer. But he still had very solid stats for only being here for so long.

I just wish the public had more info on exactly the nature of these investigations. I know it involves a bunch of Florida riders regarding a race at Great Lakes Downs, but everything else is so vague and secretive. Either scrunge up some real info on these guys or let 'em ride. If they wanna keep the evidence secretive, the accused jocks should come public with the accusations to put heat on the people trying to keep them banned.

The best way to fix is for the fav to miss the board. Hard to make a nag run faster but a lot easier to restrain of cause the low odds horses to have trouble and miss the board.

jpops757 · #14 01-10-2007, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr

I would be a little surprised that Derek Bell would feel the need to be in on a "rigged" race at Canterbury. He's been the leading rider there every year for like the last 5 or 6 years. The only reason he didn't win the riding title this past summer, was because he broke his wrist and missed half the summer. But he still had very solid stats for only being here for so long.

I just wish the public had more info on exactly the nature of these investigations. I know it involves a bunch of Florida riders regarding a race at Great Lakes Downs, but everything else is so vague and secretive. Either scrunge up some real info on these guys or let 'em ride. If they wanna keep the evidence secretive, the accused jocks should come public with the accusations to put heat on the people trying to keep them banned.

The best way to fix is for the fav to miss the board. Hard to make a nag run faster but a lot easier to restrain of cause the low odds horses to have trouble and miss the board. A short field 6-7-8 horses with the 3 lowest odds horses missing the board equals a mega hit een at the small tracks . You dont need to have the winner pegged jus box the field without the top 3.

Left Bank · #15 01-10-2007, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr

I would be a little surprised that Derek Bell would feel the need to be in on a "rigged" race at Canterbury. He's been the leading rider there every year for like the last 5 or 6 years. The only reason he didn't win the riding title this past summer, was because he broke his wrist and missed half the summer. But he still had very solid stats for only being here for so long.

I just wish the public had more info on exactly the nature of these investigations. I know it involves a bunch of Florida riders regarding a race at Great Lakes Downs, but everything else is so vague and secretive. Either scrunge up some real info on these guys or let 'em ride. If they wanna keep the evidence secretive, the accused jocks should come public with the accusations to put heat on the people trying to keep them banned.

It is called MONEY and the other word is GREED!

disappearingdan_akaplaya · #16 01-10-2007, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

It is called MONEY and the other word is GREED!

ive heard some rumors about bell from some people@canterbury when i was there, one of the leading owners there absolutely refuses to ride the guy becuase of this. anyways seth's(martinez) is the best jock there far and away when hes riding up there

Honu · #17 01-10-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

ive heard some rumors about bell from some people@canterbury when i was there, one of the leading owners there absolutely refuses to ride the guy becuase of this. anyways seth's(martinez) is the best jock there far and away when hes riding up there

Wow, havent heard Seth's name in a long time , I remember when he rode his first schooling race in Denver he was so cute and all excited lil bug boy wanna be. He always had talent and his dad Dickey made sure it never went to his head .

brianwspencer · #18 01-10-2007, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu

Wow, havent heard Seth's name in a long time , I remember when he rode his first schooling race in Denver he was so cute and all excited lil bug boy wanna be. He always had talent and his dad Dickey made sure it never went to his head .

I loved when he rode at Hawthorne last year (?) or the year before. He tended to use the whip a bit more than I would like to see, but he rode hard and gave lots of horses fighting chances that sometimes didn't deserve them.

JJP · #19 01-10-2007, 02:09 PM

I heard through the rumor mill that Seth's absence was substance abuse related. I don't know him personally but considering how frequent this is in that profession, I don't think it would be a shock.

Re: Seth, he may have the most vicious left hand windmill in all of racing.

Left Bank · #20 01-10-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP

I heard through the rumor mill that Seth's absence was substance abuse related. I don't know him personally but considering how frequent this is in that profession, I don't think it would be a shock.

Re: Seth, he may have the most vicious left hand windmill in all of racing.

You are correct sir.And he has disappeared again,so don't know if we will see him again