Curiousity - Dreaming of Anna tomorrow

Scav · #1 02-09-2007, 08:33 PM

Anyone else think coming back at 6.5 is a little dangerous tomorrow, that race has some grit to it and she won't have the lead. She isn't a 6.5 furlong horse, she is 8 furlongs and up IMO. I might be going deep in that race, not sure yet.

POINTGIVEN1985 · #2 02-09-2007, 08:49 PM

i think the filly on the rail has a big shot, but dreaming is obviously a classy filly and will be tough to beat

zippyneedsawin · #3 02-09-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Anyone else think coming back at 6.5 is a little dangerous tomorrow, that race has some grit to it and she won't have the lead. She isn't a 6.5 furlong horse, she is 8 furlongs and up IMO. I might be going deep in that race, not sure yet.

I was thinking she may be vulnerable in this spot too.. the distance may be too short and besides, sometimes good fillies just don't like Gulfstream. Certainly not a bad idea trying to beat her Saturday.

POINTGIVEN1985 · #4 02-09-2007, 08:57 PM

totally agree with you zippy, but the only thing is who beats her? if its not the 1 horse, then i dont think there is anyone that can beat her in the field, i will be making a bet on the #1 horse in the race

GPK · #5 02-09-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

While I am not a big DOA fan she should win this tomorrow prep or not. IMO the only way she is beat is if the 1 outbreaks her and makes the lead and she keeps going. None of the closers inspire at all and I can't see anyone else stepping up and winning.

now your really just trying to piss me off

brianwspencer · #6 02-09-2007, 09:22 PM

obviously i love anna -- though her maiden in the slop was not a bad race for a first time out at a shorter distance, and her run on the turf was an absolute gem at a short distance too.

the distance shouldn't be the issue for her, she's run fast enough at short distances to win this one.

her not getting the lead is the thing to watch -- if douglas can keep her back, and her rating lesson goes well, then she'll walk over this field.

if she is exposed as a need the lead type tomorrow (which even if she loses, it doesn't mean she needs the lead per se...combine gulfstream and the layoff and lots could happen), then the races against the boys don't look so attractive.

i'd love to see her sit off the pace and still run her race. something tells me she'll be able to, as I think she's been on the lead as much because of raw speed and circumstance as any other reason (ie she was just too fast to not get the lead).

obviously it's not big stretch to say that she'd be my play tomorrow, but unless she gets super rank behind the leaders or douglas tries to push her to the lead when she shouldn't be there...this field is nowhere near salty enough to otherwise belong in the same zip code as anna.

GPK · #7 02-09-2007, 09:26 PM

Anna will sit just off Dream Rush and as they make the turn for home, she will give her a nice wink and say "see ya later kid" while rolling by. Race setup is perfect for her.

Scav · #8 02-09-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

the distance shouldn't be the issue for her, she's run fast enough at short distances to win this one.

Quite the opposite here, she doesn't have 6 furlong speed, she has 8f or 9f speed.

I am going deep in this race because I think she might be beatable here, might use all.

I also think Street Magician might be a good bet against tomorrow as his first race, to me, looked like a gutter, and he is coming back awful fast....

GPK · #9 02-09-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

No I'm really not. She's a good filly, I'm just skeptical of her winning races like the Ashland, Kentucky Oaks, etc. I think she should win for fun tomorrow though. Can't bet her at what will be low odds but she should win.

I know bro...just giving you a hard time. I don't want her winning those races either...I want her back on the grass where she belongs dammit

Scav · #10 02-09-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B

Anna will sit just off Dream Rush and as they make the turn for home, she will give her a nice wink and say "see ya later kid" while rolling by. Race setup is perfect for her.

I bet you they scratch tomorrow....

GPK · #11 02-09-2007, 09:28 PM

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I bet you they scratch tomorrow....

scratch Anna? where would they point her? A match race between her and EC??

Scav · #12 02-09-2007, 09:37 PM

It is either one of the two

1) they are going to scratch OR
2) it is a paid workout

Calabrese has been known to do **** like that, this would work into her pattern of works, and she has been working 6f for some time now.....

NTamm1215 · #13 02-09-2007, 09:49 PM

Whether Dreaming of Anna scratches or not, it must be noted that Dream Rush suffered one of the worst trips I've ever seen last time out. Bejarano tried fervently to save ground and effectively put himself in a box. He got race-ridden by Desormeaux all the way around the turn and into the stretch and the running was over by the time she got clear. I think she's a big play without DOA and should be considered even with the Eclipse champ in there.

NT

brianwspencer · #14 02-09-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Quite the opposite here, she doesn't have 6 furlong speed, she has 8f or 9f speed.

I disagree. First time out on a sloppy track she went 22.2 and 45.3

Second time out (granted on turf), she went 21.2 and 43.4

I'm pretty sure she's set for 6f speed if she needs it. Is she going to run 43.4 tomorrow and win? Probably not. It's a moot point though because she's not going to be freewheeling up front I don't think.

But she can move. None of the others in here seem to have shown any faster "6 furlong" speed, so I'm not quite sure what kind of speed you're seeing her lacking.

POINTGIVEN1985 · #15 02-09-2007, 10:17 PM

dream rush has a huge shot at winning tommorw...
maybe better then doa, because of the distance, layoff, and post positions

Scav · #16 02-09-2007, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I disagree. First time out on a sloppy track she went 22.2 and 45.3

Second time out (granted on turf), she went 21.2 and 43.4

I'm pretty sure she's set for 6f speed if she needs it. Is she going to run 43.4 tomorrow and win? Probably not. It's a moot point though because she's not going to be freewheeling up front I don't think.

But she can move. None of the others in here seem to have shown any faster "6 furlong" speed, so I'm not quite sure what kind of speed you're seeing her lacking.

You realize that was when she was a baby, she is grown up now...back then, that was her capability, only because that was the option

Tomorrow is fishy, that is all I am saying

#17 02-09-2007, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Whether Dreaming of Anna scratches or not, it must be noted that Dream Rush suffered one of the worst trips I've ever seen last time out. Bejarano tried fervently to save ground and effectively put himself in a box. He got race-ridden by Desormeaux all the way around the turn and into the stretch and the running was over by the time she got clear. I think she's a big play without DOA and should be considered even with the Eclipse champ in there.

NT

Exactly as written, you got it. If I recall she broke slow and was beaten for the lead and then boxed. She got the rail again with some speed to her outside, with Bear Now and DOA and Secretsoftheheart. One thing that sticks out to me in the speed dept. is DOA race of JJuly 29th at colonial on the turf. E1/E2 are 21.2 / 43.4. Dream Rush simply drew a bad spot again as she prefers to stalk, if DOA shoots to the lead Bejarano will have to work out a better trip than he did last time again, while Secrets of the heart draws well in the 5 spot, again. DOA looks like a single to me now, we shall see how they look later on today.

JJP · #18 02-09-2007, 11:25 PM

If you think DoA will be beaten, there should be good value on the board. Calabrese's horses are always overbet in the win pool.

Scav · #19 02-09-2007, 11:27 PM

I don't know what to think about her, I like Calabrese's horse in the race before quite a bit, that horse is a half to Liz on Polk Street who was a minor stakes winner. Not a huge fan of Touch Gold as a sire but Catalano will have that horse ready.

If you toss Street Magician, I think their is some value in that pick three, even if you single DOA

Scav · #20 02-09-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP

If you think DoA will be beaten, there should be good value on the board. Calabrese's horses are always overbet in the win pool.

I dont know man, I agree with this for the most part, but I have caught a couple of his good winners over at Tampa(I am talking about 4/1 or better on Calabrese horses, unheard of, with Catalano's bro in law training.....