Why is Sweet Nicole starting 4 days from a win??

[docicu3]

Today in the 8TH, an Alw7500 at Beulah, a 5 year old horse I had followed fairly closely initially at Delaware over the last year since breaking her maiden in a first start Aug/06. Sweet Nichole has another start just 4 days after a win in a 5K claim. The trainer K Morgan seems to have decent stats that would suggest he knows what he is doing.

What would be the rationale for running back a decent horse (8-3-1-2) so soon who had just won a race, had never run on such short rest, and would seem to benefit from more time off before going to the post again.

Are we talking just an attempt at a quick buck here or are there circumstances that would make this a sensible move for a trainer and owner????

Could be any number of reasons. Maybe the reacing secretary asked the trainer to enter her to get a field of 7. Maybe the last race didn't take anything out of SN and the trainer thought another race would be better than a light jock or workout. Without speaking with the trainer, we wouldn't know the reason.

[slotdirt]

Ah...in the old days, top level stakes horses were wheeled back in four days with regularity. That being said, I'm sure there's a reason for this.

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Ah...in the old days, top level stakes horses were wheeled back in four days with regularity. That being said, I'm sure there's a reason for this.

Slot, it was so nice to see your horse run in the Saturday feature each week. Man, those were the good ole days.

When I worked as a groom too many years ago for me to admit, I worked for a low percentage trainer. In the last days of the season, he ran a low level claimer that hadn't won all meet long 3 times in 12 days and won twice and came in 2nd the third. I guess he figured what the hell it was the end of the meet. (the lack of competition at the end of the meet sure didn't hurt)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Hmmm. Ironic anyone?

hehe.

some horses come out of a race in incredible shape and are raring to go.
i remember a turf horse, graded winner, came back a week after a win-this was last year or year before.
she won again for fun.

Originally Posted by Danzig188

hehe.

some horses come out of a race in incredible shape and are raring to go.
i remember a turf horse, graded winner, came back a week after a win-this was last year or year before.
she won again for fun.

o"neill is like winning at 20% with horses that are off from 1-7 days. He is incredible at that.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Hmmm. Ironic anyone?

Oh see, you are missing something here. In this case, the trainer is racing the horse. Zito has been mum on King Alliance. Totally different situation between the two scenarios.

[Danzig]

a lot of trainers use works to keep a horse fit. so why not use a race and pay some bills instead?! besides, this is how they used to do it...

[slotdirt]

Golden Man ran back to back a couple summers ago, as we all recall.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Golden Man ran back to back a couple summers ago, as we all recall.

And actually hit the board in two grade 3 stakes.

[Sightseek]

It certainly gives you mixed feelings on the situation when on one hand you have trainers with stakes level horses saying they all need 3 to 5 weeks between races and you worry about the horses who are raced back on few days rest...and then on the other side you wonder what the heck is up with the stakes horses when you see other horses come back and win off a few days rest.

A likely explanation is that the horse had a joint injected, or some other procedure to alleviate some physical issue, is relatively sound for the time being, and while healthy, the trainer chooses to get a few races from the horse before the physical condition regresses again. I'm not suggesting anything illegal, just normal sports-medicine.

[Pedigree Ann]

A friend on another board wrote about a situation she had with a horse she was training (and owned). Horse was jumping out of its skin but the racing secretary hadn't yet written a race that fit him. Finally he writes not one but two, on a successive Saturday and Sunday. So she entered horse in both. Horse won the Saturday race, so the office person asks her - "you're going to scratch for tomorrow, of course?" "Hell, no!" says friend, runs him back and wins again. When a horse is FULLY FIT, it can run races close together. Trouble is, most 'elite level' stakes never get fully fit because they don't race often enough - overtrained and under-raced. Frustrating for the highly competitive, high-strung type of horses, too. Then the trainer tranqs it for works, when all it really wants is a chance to get out there and mix it up.