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Old 06-13-2006, 08:17 AM
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Default Carryover Heaven

Nothing beats having carryovers at both Hollywood and Belmont on a Wednesday. Extra couple of days to go over the pp's and numbers. Neither looks particularly easy.
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:56 AM
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Hey Oracle. I agree, I looked at Hollywoods and it looks very difficult. Even more difficult now that Oneal's barn is in detention for 15 days do to a postitive bicarbinate testing.......no idea which way his are going to run now.
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Old 06-13-2006, 02:17 PM
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Hey Oracle. I agree, I looked at Hollywoods and it looks very difficult. Even more difficult now that Oneal's barn is in detention for 15 days do to a postitive bicarbinate testing.......no idea which way his are going to run now.

Always wondered how he avoided getting caught.
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Old 06-13-2006, 03:53 PM
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Five turfers on the belmont pk 6.
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Old 06-13-2006, 04:26 PM
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Very hard, just spent some more time on both of them and while they aren't impossible, there are few standouts. I'm thinking of going very light early at Belmont and spreading out later. I like that rat Bronxdale in the first leg at Belmont. The rest are even worse than him. I dont like the Morrison horse off the long layoff and Meeses is being rushed back quickly.
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Old 06-13-2006, 04:28 PM
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Make sure to include Rumspringa in your tickets. Might want to even single him.
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Old 06-13-2006, 04:29 PM
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Make sure to include Rumspringa in your tickets. Might want to even single him.
His last was impressive but hes not faster than these and stepping up. hes no single for me.
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Old 06-13-2006, 04:31 PM
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As a matter of fact that race is the biggest nightmare on the card. They all could win. I have that race as an "all" right now. Its harder than any race on the card. Awesome Twist is a tossout on a dry track but since hes coupled with Royal moment who can win, geez. That race is giving me fits.
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Old 06-13-2006, 04:33 PM
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As a matter of fact that race is the biggest nightmare on the card. They all could win. I have that race as an "all" right now. Its harder than any race on the card. Awesome Twist is a tossout on a dry track but since hes coupled with Royal moment who can win, geez. That race is giving me fits.
They have Stormy Kiss going tomorrow too but not as part of the Pick 6. I would go against Tagg's non-Lael horse Dave. Ashkal Way is a tremendous horse.
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Old 06-13-2006, 07:19 PM
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ORACLE(or anybody)got an opinion about Nakatani riding Bear in the Woods(instead of Unfurl The Flag.)He must be pretty sure that Unfurl the Flag isn't gunna win(if it does ,he won't get that mount back.)Maybe he is just going with the REDDAM because he has a lot of good mounts to give him.
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Old 06-13-2006, 07:29 PM
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Actually, I saw the Unfurl owner on the dmtc.com board say that he thinks he could need a race, but that he is training well and he loves hollywood. Also, this is strange race cause there isnt a lot of early speed.....Flag, Pure as Gold (he will be in the watch barn though), and Premium Saltine. I thought the same thing, weird for Cnak to jump but you may be on to something with the connections loyalty cause I dont give Bear a shot.

http://www.dmtc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1957
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Old 06-13-2006, 08:13 PM
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You want a damn carryover?

Australia has a Pick 4 carryover of almost $4,500.00 tonight.

Big money honey!!

I'm sure Oracle is playing this one
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Old 06-13-2006, 09:10 PM
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Oracle / Scuds - you got anything for the wood carryover yet? Whos the single? Fast and Furious? Not sold on Eastern Sand here, as he was in for a tag last time and Espinoza stays with FnF. Wild Buddy will hang...to be honest, I kinda like Ace Blue to fill the exacta even though he ran like trash last time on the turf through crawling fractions. Horrible ride by Carr, take the lead dude and run away. Anyway, the MC races are just plain horrible.....only one I like is the 5th, using the Crava first timer Niftys Aura and Practical Cat (and hope he doesnt bounce like a ball). The 8th is a mess unless My First Big Kiss can repeat the last, but I like some prices with Sixes and Sevens, Speak to me Baby, and Dixies Ruler. Not to mention the feature race is a mess also........Ugh....
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Old 06-14-2006, 06:47 AM
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Oracle / Scuds - you got anything for the wood carryover yet? Whos the single? Fast and Furious? Not sold on Eastern Sand here, as he was in for a tag last time and Espinoza stays with FnF. Wild Buddy will hang...to be honest, I kinda like Ace Blue to fill the exacta even though he ran like trash last time on the turf through crawling fractions. Horrible ride by Carr, take the lead dude and run away. Anyway, the MC races are just plain horrible.....only one I like is the 5th, using the Crava first timer Niftys Aura and Practical Cat (and hope he doesnt bounce like a ball). The 8th is a mess unless My First Big Kiss can repeat the last, but I like some prices with Sixes and Sevens, Speak to me Baby, and Dixies Ruler. Not to mention the feature race is a mess also........Ugh....
Well I'm leaning towards Premium Saltine in the 7th. He was very fast last year for Tom Amoss, and normally I wouldn't consider touching a horse who was making his first start away from Amoss, but Ted West is 31% with hores who make their first start in a switch to him. The only other horse in there is Unfurl The Flag who loves Hollywood but who has drawn the rail. I hate returners who need the lead who are breaking from the inside. It means they have to break and get clear and off the layoff any horse who breaks from the inside and doesnt get clear and gets pressed has to face sustained pressure and usually wilts. Premium Saltine figures to press Unfurl The Flag from the get go and may even outbreak him and make the lead. The race is full of returnees who are prepping this spot and deep closers. Its a two horse affair and I really cant see going two deep and wasting the money when I could just bite the bullet and single the race and go twice as deep in the other legs. Premium is working better and trained by a much better trainer in West than in Bernstein. Tough card there today.
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