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Old 12-14-2011, 03:43 PM
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Default 2.5 million more Americans insured due to Obamacares

Good news. 2.5 million Americans now have insurance due to the Affordable Care Act. Lots of others left to insure, but it's a great start.

http://www.seattlepi.com/news/articl...#ixzz1gVfIOtId



And: for those that have cancer, or are on dialysis, or have reached their lifetime caps, or have had heart surgery, and can't get insurance, or cannot get insured for the things they are ill with (asthma, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, arthritis, immune diseases, etc. etc. ... Obamacares has a pool you can purchase insurance out of, and get covered for your illness: www.healthcare.gov

Yes, the uninsurable and ill and rescinded can now purchase insurance and get health care, too.
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Old 12-14-2011, 06:22 PM
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went to a meeting today.

word is that premiums are set to double or even triple on non-grandfathered health plans in a couple years.
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Old 12-14-2011, 06:25 PM
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went to a meeting today.

word is that premiums are set to double or even triple on non-grandfathered health plans in a couple years.
Yup. Those private insurance companies will attempt to screw you any way they can. Do you know what provision of Obamacares just kicked in? The one that says that private insurance companies have to spend 80% of your premium money on your health care - rather than their bonuses.

Single payer. It's the way to go.
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:16 PM
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went to a meeting today.

word is that premiums are set to double or even triple on non-grandfathered health plans in a couple years.
Strictly because of Obamacare though the Riots will spin it. Of course when I mentioned that this was going to happen she told me that I didnt know what I was talking about...

Who do you think is going to pay for those extra people insured? Look in the mirror because it is you. Dont feel bad though because a bunch of perfectly heathy 18-25 year olds now have coverage because of you!
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:18 PM
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Strictly because of Obamacare though the Riots will spin it. Of course when I mentioned that this was going to happen she told me that I didnt know what I was talking about...

Who do you think is going to pay for those extra people insured? Look in the mirror because it is you. Dont feel bad though because a bunch of perfectly heathy 18-25 year olds now have coverage because of you!
Sorry. Nice try. But those healthy 18-25 year olds are being paid for by their parents insurance premiums. Not you.
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:29 PM
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Sorry. Nice try. But those healthy 18-25 year olds are being paid for by their parents insurance premiums. Not you.
Oh so everybodys daddy is paying for them now?

Now if this is true AND the HMO's are forced BY LAW to spend 80% of their income on patients then why exactly are they raising premiums? Oh that right because they were the ones behind writing the laws so that they had free reign to raise rates as much as they wanted. So essentially the average working person gets a huge increase in their premium, a bunch of people who dont need coverage get covered, HMO's are making a ton more income so their bonuses stay the same or go up despite the new law and fools praise this as a great deal...
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:31 PM
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The ultimate irony is that as 18-25 year olds increase coverage (despite little need for this age bracket) the 26-35 age bracket has less coveage than they did 2 years ago. So a group that needs coverage more is less covered. Brilliant
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:37 PM
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Oh so everybodys daddy is paying for them now?
Nope. Private insurance, paid for only by the insured.
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Strictly because of Obamacare though the Riots will spin it. Of course when I mentioned that this was going to happen she told me that I didnt know what I was talking about...

Who do you think is going to pay for those extra people insured? Look in the mirror because it is you. Dont feel bad though because a bunch of perfectly heathy 18-25 year olds now have coverage because of you!
that's what i pointed out back when they unveiled all the new womens care paid at 100%-touted as 'free'. yeah, nothing is free.
anyone here know the price of colonoscopies? couple grand-now, when you're over 50, you can get one every year, for 'free'. of course we all know it's not free, it's just paid for elsewhere.
no one under 18 can be denied coverage due to pre-existing. no one. who will pay for the rise in claims that will occur? we all know the answer to that one.
anything over 80% of money not paid out in claims has to be returned to the policyholders via rebates. the insurance companies won't be able to put that money aside for future years' claims. all i can say is i'm glad i don't own a health insurance company.

and yeah, 18-25 year olds being able to stay on mom or dads policy will be paid for by mom or dad-if they can afford it. the premiums are about to rise dramatically.
small group coverage will disappear, because small group employers won't be able to afford the coverage for their employees. that can be spun in any direction at warp speed-it's a fact.

adding all these people, and all these benefits would be like your auto company having to take people with mulitple dui's, wrecks, etc, people with revocations etc, and you having to pay their way because they can't 'afford' it.

arkansas already has a plan in place, has had it for years, called 'chip'. it's for people denied health coverage. so the high risk folks could still get coverage. been available for a while. the truth of the entire matter is that some don't get coverage because they don't want to pay premiums. than they need the coverage, but don't have it. the current system just put in place doesn't help make coverage more affordable, it's putting it more out of reach-even for people with coverage currently.
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Single payer! Get rid of insurance companies and have the government hire all of the people that worked for them!!

We'll pay for it somehow! Fire up the printers, FED!! Woot woot!
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Old 12-15-2011, 06:06 AM
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Single payer! Get rid of insurance companies and have the government hire all of the people that worked for them!!

We'll pay for it somehow! Fire up the printers, FED!! Woot woot!
yeah, all the usps workers can go work there. i can't wait to see medical in action under the feds.
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