herman cain

[Danzig]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43763267/ns/politics/

Cain says Tenn. mosque would spread extremism


MURFREESBORO, Tenn. — Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain opposes a planned Tennessee mosque that has been the subject of protests and legal challenges.

Cain didn't bring up the controversial facility in a campaign rally on Thursday, but told reporters afterward that he's concerned about the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro.

"It is an infringement and an abuse of our freedom of religion," he said. "And I don't agree with what's happening, because this isn't an innocent mosque."

and further down:

"It is another example of why I believe in American laws and American courts," Cain said. "This is just another way to try to gradually sneak Shariah law into our laws, and I absolutely object to that."



now...i thought freedom of religion was just that; how is opposing a house of worship supporting that freedom?
as for sharia law-i thought we had a separation of church and state here. i think his 'fear' is groundless in that respect.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43763267/ns/politics/


now...i thought freedom of religion was just that; how is opposing a house of worship supporting that freedom?
as for sharia law-i thought we had a separation of church and state here. i think his 'fear' is groundless in that respect.

Perhaps Mr. Cain is opposed to arranged marriages, honor killings and the rest of the baggage this 'religion' and its laws bring?

[Danzig]

i just found it rather ironic that he used freedom of religion as an argument against the mosque.

but then, i also find it strange that you continue to denigrate the whole religion based on the bad apples that distort it's message as a way to justify their terrorist acts.

also, there are already mosques in the country; so the argument against another is rather hollow. and i would have to think it's not the people who are attempting to worship in public that are the issue.


after all, dell, how would you like it if someone used the awful happenings in your religion as a way to judge you? if you were lumped in with the bad apples?

Maybe he's an idiot?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i just found it rather ironic that he used freedom of religion as an argument against the mosque.

but then, i also find it strange that you continue to denigrate the whole religion based on the bad apples that distort it's message as a way to justify their terrorist acts.

also, there are already mosques in the country; so the argument against another is rather hollow. and i would have to think it's not the people who are attempting to worship in public that are the issue.


after all, dell, how would you like it if someone used the awful happenings in your religion as a way to judge you? if you were lumped in with the bad apples?

You mean like if someone thought all Catholics were pedophiles?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Maybe he's an idiot?

maybe??

or maybe he's trying to pander to the bigots in the party by attacking an entire group-you'd think he'd have some empathy instead.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

You mean like if someone thought all Catholics were pedophiles?

that's exactly what i meant.
then there's that catholics don't think women should be in positions of authority.
but then, neither do southern baptists. or a lot of religions for that matter...

'it says raht here in tha bahble...'

Originally Posted by Danzig

maybe??

or maybe he's trying to pander to the bigots in the party by attacking an entire group-you'd think he'd have some empathy instead.

I think he's a "Yes Man" and that's why Fox News was riding his d.ick for a few days.

From the limited air time he's had it's been empty slogans and repeatedly conveying he's going to have a team of advisers to tell him how to govern.

That's "Yes Man" speak for same ol' same ol'.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i just found it rather ironic that he used freedom of religion as an argument against the mosque.

but then, i also find it strange that you continue to denigrate the whole religion based on the bad apples that distort it's message as a way to justify their terrorist acts.

also, there are already mosques in the country; so the argument against another is rather hollow. and i would have to think it's not the people who are attempting to worship in public that are the issue.


after all, dell, how would you like it if someone used the awful happenings in your religion as a way to judge you? if you were lumped in with the bad apples?

I havent looked into it, but you would think that based on Cains comments, maybe the people who want to start the mosque have some questionable connections or opinions on shariah law?? he could have meant that freedom of religion makes sure that shariah law will never be put in place in America (thank little g) if that is not the case, then Cains comments are just disrespectful.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by jms62

You mean like if someone thought all Catholics were pedophiles?

not sure if anyone saw this, recent report on the catholic church in ireland-showing that NOTHING has changed:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43744278...h-hid-abuse-s/


Focus on 19 priests
The report, which focuses on 19 priests who allegedly abused children during a period from January 1996 to February 2009, lists how the diocese failed to report all sexual abuse complaints to the police and did not report any complaints to the health authorities between 1996 and 2008.

The bishop formerly responsible for the diocese, John Magee, falsely told the authorities that he was reporting all abuse allegations to the police, the report said.

He resigned in March last year after a Church investigation said his handling of abuse allegations had exposed children to risk.


The report also criticized the Vatican as "entirely unhelpful" by describing Irish church guidelines on how to deal with abuse accusations as "merely a study document."

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I havent looked into it, but you would think that based on Cains comments, maybe the people who want to start the mosque have some questionable connections or opinions on shariah law?? he could have meant that freedom of religion makes sure that shariah law will never be put in place in America (thank little g) if that is not the case, then Cains comments are just disrespectful.

no, it's not that they have questionable connections. they have been meeting for years already, but have outgrown their current building. they wish to grow because everyone can no longer fit inside their present site.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...011847,00.html

[Antitrust32]

then Cain should recind his comments.

I heard Casey Anthony might be staying in Ocala when she gets out!

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

You mean like if someone thought all Catholics were pedophiles?

If 50% or more of Catholics were victims of pedophiles, the comparison to arranged marriages would be valid. Fortunately for Catholics, it's not even close to that and sadly for muslim girls, they are victims of arranged marriages (in most cases as minors) at a far greater rate than 50%. At least here in America that should not be happening.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

If 50% or more of Catholics were victims of pedophiles, the comparison to arranged marriages would be valid. Fortunately for Catholics, it's not even close to that and sadly for muslim girls, they are victims of arranged marriages (in most cases as minors) at a far greater rate than 50%. At least here in America that should not be happening.

lol
boy, that went right over your head.

he's saying that you probably wouldn't like being called a pedophile.


i don't recall your concerns being voiced about hinduism. should their houses of worship also be banned here?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

lol
boy, that went right over your head.

he's saying that you probably wouldn't like being called a pedophile.

and my response went right over yours. If Catholics were involved in pedophilia at the same rate muslims/hindus are involved in abuse of their daughters his calling me a pedophile may have a valid basis. Provided I was still involved with the religion which, I am not.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

"It is an infringement and an abuse of our freedom of religion," he said. "And I don't agree with what's happening, because this isn't an innocent mosque.".

It's a shame this bozo's "presidential campaign" gives his verbal crap media coverage.

"... an abuse of our freedom of religion". Just for you hating bigots, Cain.

Disgusting man.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Perhaps Mr. Cain is opposed to arranged marriages, honor killings and the rest of the baggage this 'religion' and its laws bring?

Or the interfaith tolerance, the holding of Moses and Jesus as prophets, and the mantra of peace.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

and my response went right over yours. If Catholics were involved in pedophilia at the same rate muslims/hindus are involved in abuse of their daughters his calling me a pedophile may have a valid basis. Provided I was still involved with the religion which, I am not.

I see you've added Hindus - an entirely different religion than Islam - onto your hate list.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Or the interfaith tolerance, the holding of Moses and Jesus as prophets, and the mantra of peace.

i dont see why Moses is held in a high regard by anyone.

He was a murderous monster. men, women, children, who cares. Just wipe out the entire village. Its like celebrating the Arab Muslims in Sudan who wiped out the Black Muslim villages.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I see you've added Hindus - an entirely different religion than Islam - onto your hate list.

I hate abuse of women and children more than anything. You obviously are able to look the other way. If a man can't respect his own daughter how is he expected to respect anything other than his own self-interests? Ignoring the problem will not make it go away and in fact perpetuates it making it seem valid.