Johnny V: Innocent victim of Maragh payback?

DaTruth · #1 06-12-2011, 11:36 PM

<<<Further, Velazquez said he thinks Maragh may have deliberately taken a left-hand turn aboard Isn’t He Perfect to impede Mucho Macho Man, a horse Maragh had been taken off after riding him in the Kentucky Derby and Preakness. Mucho Macho Man, under Ramon Dominguez, broke from post 10, in between Animal Kingdom and Isn’t He Perfect.

“That’s what I think,’’ Velazquez said in a conference call with reporters Sunday morning. “That’s why I was so frustrated. Things happen in a race. If it would have happened right out of the gate I wouldn’t have been so frustrated because things happen right from the start. But this happened three or four jumps after the start so that’s why I was frustrated. It shouldn’t happen. He should not be playing something like that in a race like this. It’s stupidity and it shouldn’t happen.’’>>>

http://www.drf.com/news/belmont-stak...w-rider-maragh

iamthelurker · #2 06-12-2011, 11:43 PM

DaTruth.

letswastemoney · #3 06-13-2011, 02:16 AM

It's a plausible theory. Obviousy Maragh will not admit it even if it was true. We will never know for sure.

Fearless Leader · #4 06-13-2011, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth

<<<Further, Velazquez said he thinks Maragh may have deliberately taken a left-hand turn aboard Isn’t He Perfect to impede Mucho Macho Man, a horse Maragh had been taken off after riding him in the Kentucky Derby and Preakness. Mucho Macho Man, under Ramon Dominguez, broke from post 10, in between Animal Kingdom and Isn’t He Perfect.

“That’s what I think,’’ Velazquez said in a conference call with reporters Sunday morning. “That’s why I was so frustrated. Things happen in a race. If it would have happened right out of the gate I wouldn’t have been so frustrated because things happen right from the start. But this happened three or four jumps after the start so that’s why I was frustrated. It shouldn’t happen. He should not be playing something like that in a race like this. It’s stupidity and it shouldn’t happen.’’>>>

http://www.drf.com/news/belmont-stak...w-rider-maragh

Is he saying that it would be okay to do what he is accusing Maragh of in a Claiming race on a Thursday ? Stupid jockey behavior occurs all the time and shouldn't be tolerated ever.

randallscott35 · #5 06-13-2011, 07:51 AM

Johnny was just emotional at the time. The Rajiv I know would never do such a thing but would surely middle move wide into any pace scenario and come up wanting late.

my miss storm cat · #6 06-13-2011, 01:09 PM

I want to say there's no way on earth he or any professional would do such a thing, take a risk like that, potentially endanger other jockeys or horses but I'm suddenly trying to figure out if I'm being naive in thinking this way.

In my heart of hearts though no. No way.

Riot · #7 06-13-2011, 01:44 PM

Velazquez is completely unprofessional to make such an accusation in public. The stewards will sort it out Wednesday. If Johnny still has a problem after that, he can physically fight Rajiv in the hall outside the stewards room, so we can read about that.

randallscott35 · #8 06-13-2011, 01:45 PM

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Velazquez is completely unprofessional to make such an accusation in public. The stewards will sort it out Wednesday. If Johnny still has a problem after that, he can physically fight Rajiv in the hall outside the stewards room, so we can read about that.

Maybe Angel can get in a few punches as well

MaTH716 · #9 06-13-2011, 02:10 PM

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Velazquez is completely unprofessional to make such an accusation in public. The stewards will sort it out Wednesday. If Johnny still has a problem after that, he can physically fight Rajiv in the hall outside the stewards room, so we can read about that.

Rajiv would probably throw a punch prematurely and punch some valet in the face.

randallscott35 · #10 06-13-2011, 02:11 PM

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Rajiv would probably throw a punch prematurely and punch some valet in the face.

Ain't that the truth. No clock in that head.

3kings · #11 06-13-2011, 02:20 PM

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Velazquez is completely unprofessional to make such an accusation in public. The stewards will sort it out Wednesday. If Johnny still has a problem after that, he can physically fight Rajiv in the hall outside the stewards room, so we can read about that.

If Velasquez thinks this is what happened than he should have beat the crap out of him on Saturday. I think he has a right to go public with it if asked. Why is this unprofessional? I would want people to look at and form their own opinions not just the stewards. If incidents like this became more public it would prevent people from giving mounts to riders who use such horrible judgement.

Riot · #12 06-13-2011, 02:23 PM

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If Velasquez thinks this is what happened than he should have beat the crap out of him on Saturday. I think he has a right to go public with it if asked. Why is this unprofessional? I would want people to look at and form their own opinions not just the stewards. If incidents like this became more public it would prevent people from giving mounts to riders who use such horrible judgement.

So let's hear more from Barry Irwin. It should all be public on the NBC telecast of the Belmont. That's great for racing.

pointman · #13 06-13-2011, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Velazquez is completely unprofessional to make such an accusation in public. The stewards will sort it out Wednesday. If Johnny still has a problem after that, he can physically fight Rajiv in the hall outside the stewards room, so we can read about that.

Maybe the stewards should drug test both of them.

3kings · #14 06-13-2011, 03:03 PM

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So let's hear more from Barry Irwin. It should all be public on the NBC telecast of the Belmont. That's great for racing.

How are these two item related? What does Irwin being a blowhard have to do with this. Velasquez was asked on a conference call on Sunday morning and gave his opinion about the Belmont Stakes. He was not giving his opinion on the state of the game. I'm for more transparency in the sport, not hiding things from the Public. I thought for sure with your political lean, more transparency would be better.

Riot · #15 06-13-2011, 03:05 PM

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How are these two item related? .

Wow. Seriously? Because they are both speaking publicly about the sport, and making public allegations of illegal activity.

NTamm1215 · #16 06-13-2011, 03:10 PM

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Wow. Seriously? Because they are both speaking publicly about the sport, and making public allegations of illegal activity.

You're on quite a roll this afternoon. It just keeps getting better.

Riot · #17 06-13-2011, 03:14 PM

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You're on quite a roll this afternoon. It just keeps getting better.

Yeah. I say Johnny V. was unprofessional for publicly accusing Rajiv of deliberately threatening the lives of the horses and jocks on that track at the press conference.

And you say that's a weird opinion?

3kings · #18 06-13-2011, 03:15 PM

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Wow. Seriously? Because they are both speaking publicly about the sport, and making public allegations of illegal activity.

One is the Derby winning owner on a national telecast, the other is a conference call the day after the event to the racing press. You are correct as usual they are the same.

pointman · #19 06-13-2011, 03:16 PM

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You're on quite a roll this afternoon. It just keeps getting better.

Please, judging from her politics posts, this is just the tip of the iceberg.

#20 06-13-2011, 03:20 PM

And just think she's allowed to treat animals. No wonder why this country is in the toilet.