To Honor and Serve

NTamm1215 · #1 10-02-2010, 02:39 PM

Nice looking 2YO. Final time of his maiden win was only .29 slower than Colizeo's win in the Star of Cozzene.

Sightseek · #2 10-02-2010, 02:40 PM

He is nice, the race call was fun too.

The Indomitable DrugS · #3 10-03-2010, 06:36 AM

He looks like a star in the making.

Bill Mott is absolutely brutal with 2yo debuters on dirt - and this horse ran so strong first out. His preformance yesterday was absolutely tremendous.

Bill Mott has 916 starts with 2yo's since 2003 - and his ROI from that huge sample size in a horrid $1.17 - you're talking about a 41.5% loss on the betting dollar.

And with 2yo's on dirt since 2003 - 594 starts and a $1.13 ROI - you're getting into losing triple the takeout. Words can't describe how awful that is.

Mott's two-year-olds tend to improve a whole lot from age two to three when he trains them .. and - if they get transferred to another barn - the improvement is often significant.

Zayat moved some of his 2yo's with Mott to Baffert one year - and several of them saw a big spike in form. Zensational and Pioneer of the Nile most notably. Baffert took POTN from Mott off of a 3rd place finish beaten 8 lengths to Square Eddie at Kee and a 5th place finish behind Midshipman in the BC Juv - POTN won his first four straight for Baffert - all at the Grade 1 and Grade 2 level before the winning streak was snapped with a 2nd place finish in the Kentucky Derby.

NTamm1215 · #4 10-03-2010, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He looks like a star in the making.

Bill Mott is absolutely brutal with 2yo debuters on dirt - and this horse ran so strong first out. His preformance yesterday was absolutely tremendous.

Bill Mott has 916 starts with 2yo's since 2003 - and his ROI from that huge sample size in a horrid $1.17 - you're talking about a 41.5% loss on the betting dollar.

And with 2yo's on dirt since 2003 - 594 starts and a $1.13 ROI - you're getting into losing triple the takeout. Words can't describe how awful that is.

Mott's two-year-olds tend to improve a whole lot from age two to three when he trains them .. and - if they get transferred to another barn - the improvement is often significant.

Zayat moved some of his 2yo's with Mott to Baffert one year - and several of them saw a big spike in form. Zensational and Pioneer of the Nile most notably. Baffert took POTN from Mott off of a 3rd place finish beaten 8 lengths to Square Eddie at Kee and a 5th place finish behind Midshipman in the BC Juv - POTN won his first four straight for Baffert - all at the Grade 1 and Grade 2 level before the winning streak was snapped with a 2nd place finish in the Kentucky Derby.

That's kind of the way I saw it. He ran a very nice race in his debut rushing up the inside to reach contention and battling all the way. The pedigree is solid to go long as I think we're going to see the Bernardini offspring improve as the distances get longer. His dam was a stakes winner and he's a half to India, who won the Cotillion at Philly Park in 2006.

blackthroatedwind · #5 10-03-2010, 09:42 AM

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His dam was a stakes winner and he's a half to India, who won the Cotillion at Philly Park in 2006.

I assume that would be considered the downside?

NTamm1215 · #6 10-03-2010, 09:54 AM

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I assume that would be considered the downside?

What a colossal disappointment she was. I had almost forgotten that she was a huge favorite in the Matron that Folklore crushed.

Betsy · #7 10-03-2010, 10:56 AM

I was really hoping the race would come off the turf because I thought his debut was exceptional. I've never rooted against an Indy, but I did root against Astrology that day and after the race I was certain that To Honor and Serve was the better horse. Was that Charlotte Weber in the winner's circle? I thought so, but couldn't be sure.

Anyone know what Beyer fig he got? He's not on the DRF leaderboard.
Thanks!

VOL JACK · #8 10-03-2010, 07:33 PM

NTamm1215 · #9 10-03-2010, 07:34 PM

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Are you talking about Arian Foster's longest TD run of the season or To Honor and Serve's Beyer?

VOL JACK · #10 10-03-2010, 07:38 PM

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Are you talking about Arian Foster's longest TD run of the season or To Honor and Serve's Beyer?

Beyer.

Wish he would have run like that while at UT.

NTamm1215 · #11 10-03-2010, 07:39 PM

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Beyer.

Wish he would have run like that while at UT.

I knew which one. To Honor and Serve has a better future but I like both.

VOL JACK · #12 10-03-2010, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I knew which one. To Honor and Serve has a better future but I like both.

I bet Foster will make more

Betsy · #13 10-03-2010, 09:01 PM

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95

Thanks!

The Indomitable DrugS · #14 11-06-2010, 02:21 PM

Looked good winning a Graded Stakes at AQU today with a candy trip.

Mott's plan was to run him back in what should be a moderate Remsen Stakes - he basically won't have to worry about Graded earnings next year and can do whatever he wants with him. We'll see if he goes through with that plan.

gales0678 · #15 11-06-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Looked good winning a Graded Stakes at AQU today with a candy trip.

Mott's plan was to run him back in what should be a moderate Remsen Stakes - he basically won't have to worry about Graded earnings next year and can do whatever he wants with him. We'll see if he goes through with that plan.

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