Obama Report Card -Vote and be counted!

[geeker2]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_1...03544.html?tag

He better hope his dog eats it....

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

riot will come up with a diffrent one..

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

riot will come up with a diffrent one..

And you'll just say he "got elected on the race card".

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

And you'll just say he "got elected on the race card".

Actually, I would say the reverse: 61% of Obama's voters were Caucasian Americans. This was what the polls said on election night.

That said, the reverse is also true: the African-Americans cannot stand up and say, "We got this man elected." Bull. If the white voters did not come out for him, he loses. And that will be equally true in 2012.

The race thing is overplayed by the left and the right. It is irrelevant. What is far more pertinent is that this man is the most leftist president the country has seen since at least Woodrow Wilson, and possibly worse than him.

That is why his approval ratings are tanking, and barring a sharp right turn, he will lose in 2012.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

And you'll just say he "got elected on the race card".

He won because he was lucky enough to run against W even though he wasn't in the race.

Karma's a biatch though and someone from the right will experience that same luck in 2 years.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Actually, I would say the reverse: 61% of Obama's voters were Caucasian Americans. This was what the polls said on election night.

That said, the reverse is also true: the African-Americans cannot stand up and say, "We got this man elected." Bull. If the white voters did not come out for him, he loses. And that will be equally true in 2012.

The race thing is overplayed by the left and the right. It is irrelevant. What is far more pertinent is that this man is the most leftist president the country has seen since at least Woodrow Wilson, and possibly worse than him.

That is why his approval ratings are tanking, and barring a sharp right turn, he will lose in 2012.

I'm not talking about reality. I am talking about what Hooves says.

[Thunder Gulch]

It's the Economy stupid...well now include the environment because of the Gulf catastrophe is such an urgent matter. The other stuff should be on the back burner, but some of the priorities are screwed up.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Karma's a biatch though and someone from the right will experience that same luck in 2 years.

The righties on here can't stand Obama. There's no way to change the prism of intense dislike and the screeching megaphone of doom through which you far right guys look at all things Obama. You are not objective in the least

But Obama isn't universally hated in the real world, he has accomplished a significant amount his first year, the negative "talk" doesn't match the measured reality. The far left progessives have far more to dislike so far than the right wing!

Things change quickly in politics, the first thing is the fall elections. Then there is two more years. To write him off now is beyond absurd, especially as the results of everything done this year will start to be felt then.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

To write him off now is beyond absurd, especially as the results of everything done this year will start to be felt then.

I would argue that predicting him in a landslide is whatever 'beyond' being beyond absurd is.

Lunacy?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

It's the Economy stupid...well now include the environment because of the Gulf catastrophe is such an urgent matter. The other stuff should be on the back burner, but some of the priorities are screwed up.

What other stuff are you referring to? Afghanistan?

I give him credit for going ahead with the start of healthcare reform. He was willing to sacrifice a second term to it, and he got it done (the start). Nixon, Reagan, Clinton, all of them wanted healthcare reform, and all others failed or abandoned it. There's law now, and just like civil rights and social security, it will be tweeked, and it will help both our citizens and the economy in a massive way in future years.

Yeah, yeah, go ahead and screech away, far righties on here who disagree ...

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I would argue that predicting him in a landslide is whatever 'beyond' being beyond absurd is.

Lunacy?

I clearly said "landslide at this point", in the context that the GOP has nobody to run against Obama at this point that could win. The GOP also has to make a case for itself as something more than the party of right wing whack jobs (Glenn, Rush, Michelle Bachmann, Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle - they all make Rand Paul look mainstream!)

Lots to happen before 2012

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

You are not objective in the least

then.

hahahahahahah! oh the comedy! hey at least you are good for that!

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by joeydb

What is far more pertinent is that this man is the most leftist president the country has seen since at least Woodrow Wilson, and possibly worse than him.

You know, I've been hearing this over and over since two days after the 2008 election. But if that's the case, he's doing a really pisspoor job of acting like it.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

You know, I've been hearing this over and over since two days after the 2008 election. But if that's the case, he's doing a really pisspoor job of acting like it.

you might not like this, cause Clinton may not have been a progressive enough for you (though I do believe deep down he was)

The greatest "hope" that I have for Obama is to turn out even a little bit like ol' Bill (minus the oval office bj's - not classy for that office, though it really wasnt our business).

Bill started off pretty liberal, and America really wasnt too hot on him until Newt and the pub's took Congress 2 years into Clinton's presidency (which I think has a decent chance of happening in Nov). Clinton embrased some of the ideas from Congress, and became much more of a "centrist", and his last 6 years were pretty spectacular from a fiscal standpoint. I believe that Obama can learn from that.. and hopefully he continues to use Hillary.

I think a Repub Pres (especially one like Bush) and a liberal congress does NOT work.

I do believe that a Liberal Pres and a Conservative congress does and can work though.

I want President Obama to do well.. my future is based on that & I love this country.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

you might not like this, cause Clinton may not have been a progressive enough for you (though I do believe deep down he was)

The greatest "hope" that I have for Obama is to turn out even a little bit like ol' Bill (minus the oval office bj's - not classy for that office, though it really wasnt our business).

Bill started off pretty liberal, and America really wasnt too hot on him until Newt and the pub's took Congress 2 years into Clinton's presidency (which I think has a decent chance of happening in Nov). Clinton embrased some of the ideas from Congress, and became much more of a "centrist", and his last 6 years were pretty spectacular from a fiscal standpoint. I believe that Obama can learn from that.. and hopefully he continues to use Hillary.

I think a Repub Pres (especially one like Bush) and a liberal congress does NOT work.

I do believe that a Liberal Pres and a Conservative congress does and can work though.

I want President Obama to do well.. my future is based on that & I love this country.

I'll admit that I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm more progressive than this country will ever be from a political standpoint, and there is no way that the country I live in will ever look like I think it should unless I move somewhere in Europe, which I don't obviously want to do because I like it here.

I liked Clinton quite a bit, and a return to the glory days of that era would be 100% fine by me.

But at the same time, I also don't think that things can be like that again, at least not with Obama. The Right hated Clinton for the most part, but it doesn't match up in any way with how extreme their hatred for everything about Obama is. They will absolutely NOT work with him on anything. If they get control of Congress, I'd be willing to wager that there will be no "centrist" legislation whatsoever, because a great deal of folks on the right are more concerned with seeing Obama fail than they are seeing anything positive get done. And you can bet that two years of no forward progress will be just fine with them as long as it means that Obama fails.

Then again, bickering, blame, and no forward progress seems to be what everyone wants (if DT is a good microcosm of the world), so it seems that people will be, for the most part, getting exactly what they want.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'm not talking about reality. I am talking about what Hooves says.

just keep swinging on his nutz......hey riot why is the oil still flowing on day 73
if hes been in charge of it the whole time.. shut up, your old act is soo fkn tired..

what does the report card say ..your on iggy list no 1

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I'll admit that I've resigned myself to the fact that I'm more progressive than this country will ever be from a political standpoint, and there is no way that the country I live in will ever look like I think it should unless I move somewhere in Europe, which I don't obviously want to do because I like it here.

I liked Clinton quite a bit, and a return to the glory days of that era would be 100% fine by me.

But at the same time, I also don't think that things can be like that again, at least not with Obama. The Right hated Clinton for the most part, but it doesn't match up in any way with how extreme their hatred for everything about Obama is. They will absolutely NOT work with him on anything. If they get control of Congress, I'd be willing to wager that there will be no "centrist" legislation whatsoever, because a great deal of folks on the right are more concerned with seeing Obama fail than they are seeing anything positive get done. And you can bet that two years of no forward progress will be just fine with them as long as it means that Obama fails.
Then again, bickering, blame, and no forward progress seems to be what everyone wants (if DT is a good microcosm of the world), so it seems that people will be, for the most part, getting exactly what they want.

I would hope and pray that our elected officials care about us constituents, even just a little bit.

But yeah you are right, they are all scum bags.

There are no Newts in the Republican part of congress anymore. (the dems may disagree, but I think he was the MAN in the 90's - he's really brilliant, with personal shortcomings - but dont we all)

Shoot.. I'd be much happier with a party full of "moderates" like Scott Brown.. even if it means the passage of progressive reforms (I just want things that will actually work an not add to our debt) at least he seems to care about his people!

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

just keep swinging on his nutz......hey riot why is the oil still flowing on day 73
if hes been in charge of it the whole time.. shut up, your old act is soo fkn tired..

what does the report card say ..your on iggy list no 1

I keep wanting to do this.. but cant bring myself to do it yet.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by Riot

But Obama isn't universally hated in the real world, he has accomplished a significant amount his first year

Please tell me what he has accomplished???

His defenders make rabid Zenyatta fans look sane...

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by ARyan

Please tell me what he has accomplished???

His defenders make rabid Zenyatta fans look sane...

well his stimulus!!! It saved us from Great Depression #2 now we are just boarderline Great Depression #2 and another trillion $$ in debt from it.. and it was a terrible idea. But it was great and saved that good ol' US of A!!!

And the health care plan is going to make the young bright minds of this country all want to be doctors... because getting paid by the government is sooooo wonderful!!

and, uh, and.. um yeah he had a beer summit that ended racial tension in this country forever!!

yay!