Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-27-2009, 04:15 PM
MisterB's Avatar
MisterB MisterB is offline
Woodbine
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Saratoga
Posts: 1,040
Default I would say Bill Mott is odds on favorite

To get Juddmonte horses. He has a close relationship with top Brass, and that counts alot. How many, who knows, but it would seem he is ML favorite to get his share. Wait and see I guess.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-27-2009, 04:39 PM
eajinabi's Avatar
eajinabi eajinabi is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,755
Default

I always thought that Humberto Ascaiono would inherit them and train.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-27-2009, 04:40 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eajinabi
I always thought that Humberto Ascaiono would inherit them and train.
doubt it
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-27-2009, 06:00 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Sheriffs
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-27-2009, 06:15 PM
hockey2315 hockey2315 is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,403
Default

Looks like Todd got the Stronachs.

Not sure if he's even under consideration, but I think Clement would be the best fit for Juddmonte.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-27-2009, 06:38 PM
JDank34's Avatar
JDank34 JDank34 is offline
Turf Paradise
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Lexington, KY
Posts: 246
Default

Sheriff's is 1/100 to get the Juddmonte horses....
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-27-2009, 06:40 PM
MisterB's Avatar
MisterB MisterB is offline
Woodbine
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Saratoga
Posts: 1,040
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Sheriffs
west coast? White is also in your corner. He has his good points though. Whites comment are pointed. I think White is a good voice, but won't be heard overall.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-27-2009, 06:58 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JDank34
Sheriff's is 1/100 to get the Juddmonte horses....
would he even want them? I dont think he wants a large stable, he basically has three clients, Moss, Wygood, and Kirkorian.
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-28-2009, 11:01 AM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
would he even want them? I dont think he wants a large stable, he basically has three clients, Moss, Wygood, and Kirkorian.
You arent serious are you?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-28-2009, 12:26 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
You arent serious are you?
He has turned down other high priced clients, I have no clue how Juddmonte operates, my point is he is not a glory chaser to the point he would put up with non sense like Baffert does.
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-28-2009, 12:41 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 44,044
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
He has turned down other high priced clients, I have no clue how Juddmonte operates, my point is he is not a glory chaser to the point he would put up with non sense like Baffert does.
All these years of Frankel-helmed Juddmonte runners makes it clear how they operate, no? That would seem readily apparent from the years of calm coexistence they and Frankel enjoyed. From observing the way Prince Khalid conducts Juddmonte's business, there isn't any interloping or what I guess you mean by 'nonsense'. Juddmonte has proven itself totally professional.. an anti-limelight outfit if there ever was one. When you fold in the relationship Dottie Ingordo had with Frankel, it portends well for her husband taking the handful of Juddmonte horses they keep in North America. And finally, there is the matter of Garrett O'Rourke having said Sherriffs was the leading candidate two weeks ago.
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-28-2009, 12:47 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
All these years of Frankel-helmed Juddmonte runners makes it clear how they operate, no? That would seem readily apparent from the years of calm coexistence they and Frankel enjoyed. From observing the way Prince Khalid conducts Juddmonte's business, there isn't any interloping or what I guess you mean by 'nonsense'. Juddmonte has proven itself totally professional.. an anti-limelight outfit if there ever was one. When you fold in the relationship Dottie Ingordo had with Frankel, it portends well for her husband taking the handful of Juddmonte horses they keep in North America. And finally, there is the matter of Garrett O'Rourke having said Sherriffs was the leading candidate two weeks ago.
Well see
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-28-2009, 12:51 PM
Sightseek's Avatar
Sightseek Sightseek is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,024
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
All these years of Frankel-helmed Juddmonte runners makes it clear how they operate, no? That would seem readily apparent from the years of calm coexistence they and Frankel enjoyed. From observing the way Prince Khalid conducts Juddmonte's business, there isn't any interloping or what I guess you mean by 'nonsense'. Juddmonte has proven itself totally professional.. an anti-limelight outfit if there ever was one. When you fold in the relationship Dottie Ingordo had with Frankel, it portends well for her husband taking the handful of Juddmonte horses they keep in North America. And finally, there is the matter of Garrett O'Rourke having said Sherriffs was the leading candidate two weeks ago.
and Dottie's son already working for Juddmonte (at least he was).
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-28-2009, 02:35 PM
MisterB's Avatar
MisterB MisterB is offline
Woodbine
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Saratoga
Posts: 1,040
Default

I respect Garrett O'Rourke, but I believe there are 2 layers above him who will decide.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-28-2009, 06:07 PM
Cannon Shell's Avatar
Cannon Shell Cannon Shell is offline
Sha Tin
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 20,855
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
He has turned down other high priced clients, I have no clue how Juddmonte operates, my point is he is not a glory chaser to the point he would put up with non sense like Baffert does.
They are arguably the best outfit in the sport. You get nothing but stakes quality horses and an owner that lets you call the shots. zero downside.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-28-2009, 06:57 PM
Gaelic Storm's Avatar
Gaelic Storm Gaelic Storm is offline
Bowie
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 224
Default

I wonder if they go with an east coast and a west coast trainer. Didn't they have some horses with Kimmel back in the mid 90's?
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-28-2009, 10:29 PM
freddymo freddymo is offline
Belmont Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 7,091
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Sheriffs
If you arent including the Ness in the conversation you aren't including perhaps the finest new talent the industry has seen since Oscar.. The Prince can call Midwest Thoroughbreds for an A1 reference!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-29-2009, 04:33 PM
hockey2315 hockey2315 is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,403
Default

Mott got them.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-29-2009, 04:53 PM
NTamm1215 NTamm1215 is offline
Havre de Grace
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,629
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hockey2315
Mott got them.
Did you see a story anywhere?

It's a nice boost for Mott. I hope he does well with them.

NT
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 11-29-2009, 04:54 PM
hockey2315 hockey2315 is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 5,403
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Did you see a story anywhere?

It's a nice boost for Mott. I hope he does well with them.

NT
Nope. . . just heard it through the grapevine.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:24 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.