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![]() It sounds like she is headed to the Classic based on what Mr. Haskin said on the radioshow. On paper she does not appear fast enough but she does always find a way to win.
Would she be the horse of the year or would that depend on who she beats? I would think beating a horse like Sea The Stars would carry more weight than horses like Einstein. Who decides this or is the Breeders Cup Classic winner sort of the horse of the year by default? Is it true Jess Jackson bought voters with cases of wine last year and that is why Curlin got it over Zenyatta? |
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![]() anybody still bet in here?
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I said this a few weeks ago and ppl said no way... I think if Z stays undefeated and wins the BCC she will be. Im not saying shes better, but I do beleive this is how it will be voted. |
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![]() God I hope Zenyatta runs in the Classic.
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HOY was WRAPPED UP a few weeks ago.
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WHatever, I think Rachel is better SURE... Thats not the point... Zenyatta's toughest competition is Icon Project.... She might as well run in the Classic. |
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Given that she and Mine That Bird would be offering each other a running buddy, I wonder how that's gonna go. I was having trouble with At The Races online, dunno if it was just me, but I'll try to stream the archives to hear what Haskin had to say. Was he on again today or was that the one from Monday? Can't ever have too much, I just wondered which to listen to first. Maybe they've already discussed it, but who shadows who? MTB and Zenyatta, I mean. |
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![]() The question you have to ask is, if Zenyatta wins the BC Classic and ends up with a 4 for 4 or 5 for 5 record this year, is that accomplishment better than Rachel's 8 for 8 record this year. The HOY should be for your accomplishment the WHOLE year. Personally, I think HOY is Rachel's.
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![]() Zenyatta could win the Ladies Classic on Friday and the Classic on Saturday and she still won't be HOY.
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Still trying to outsmart me, aren't you, mule-skinner? You want me to think that you don't want me to go down there, but the subtle truth is you really don't want me to go down there! |
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![]() Z has no chance for HOY. Not even close for God sakes. She runs on used condums, not dirt. She beat up on nobody.
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There is no contest on HOY.................
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A racehorse is an animal that can take several thousand people for a ride at the same time. ~Author Unknown |
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![]() I think Rachael wrapped up HOY by winning the Woodward. When was the last time any 3 year old filly had a campaign like this, and won every single start to boot? For God sakes, she won the 2nd leg of the Triple Crown by beating the KY Derby winner, then she beat the Belmont winner in the Haskell...2 races where you never see fillies run.
Sure Zenyatta always wins, she always runs against the same crop of nothings out in California. Her consistency is amazing but shes done out of the box to capture true national exposure. I cant believe this is even a debate anymore! |
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![]() Well, according to Tool Operator all Z has to do is workout in the morning, since she's the reigning champion.
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![]() I don't have a vote but if I did, and Z were to win the BCC over a field that included Sea The Stars she'sbe HOY in my book. Beating males in the "biggest race of the year" outweighs winning the Woodward/Preakness. I don't think Z could beat even the moderate crew that has been taking turns out there are year (Einstein, Rail Trip etc) but if she did, and beat Sea the Stars -esp if he ran huge in defeat- I'd give the nod to the mare.
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If she did that, she would win HOY. Talk about sportsmanship... Short of that, the issue has been settled. Paul |
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![]() Z must win the Classic to beat RA but I'd hardly say that the issue is settled. If some of the leading Euro's take to it like last year's bunch and run huge and the most proven older horses and the leading 3yo's are all beaten by Zenyatta in the Classic, how does RA win for beating a) the same good 3yo's as Z and b) lesser older horses.
IF (and that is a big IF) Z beats all that RA (MTB, SB, Macho Again etc) did and more (granting that Sea the Stars, Einstein, Rail Trip etc are better than Macho Again and Bullsbay) how does she not win HOY.
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