Stroking Bernardini

Scurlogue Champ · #1 07-30-2006, 06:37 PM

Is there anyone else on here who hasn't completely lost their mind over this horse?

He has looked really good in his last two races, but they are just that...two races. One of which the favorite broke down.

(his allowance and Withers were races similar to how strong contender and showing up and other "best ever types" ran, so I'm not counting them)

I agree that he is good, but I am seeing posts saying things like "best horse in a long time" just like we see every year when some colt wins a triple crown race.

Where is all of the ****-talking about Jazil or Discreet Cat? Or maybe even Showing Up?

I'll tell you where it is. Sitting in wait until one of those runs again...

The minute some other three year old wins a diluted race by open lengths, we will hear more of the "second coming of Secretariat" BS.

Honestly, am I the only one who wasn't that impressed? He was kind of supposed to beat those types of horses like that.

He reminds me of Scrappy T last year (Withers, Preakness), except Afleet Alex finished the Preakness and Barbaro didn't.

Gander · #2 07-30-2006, 06:51 PM

Okay so lets not declare him the second coming of Secretariat just yet, but cmmon Mood...hes a lot better than Scrappy T. He was before yesterday's demolishing. Scrappy T was a nice little useful horse but Bernardini is completely in another league.

Scrappy T, LOL! LOL!

31lengths · #3 07-30-2006, 06:53 PM

Bernardini has been great.

It's ALL relative. That's why we will always debate.

#4 07-30-2006, 06:58 PM

I guess you just don't see the brilliance in him that everybody else does....it'll come to you eventually, that I'm sure of...

I thought he was breath-taking after his maiden and Withers victories and even stated that he may be the best 3YO in the country after the Withers on the radio and I was glad that I knew of his brillaince that early because it allowed me to hit big in the Preakness when he was 12-1 and I crushed the TRI and SUPER, etc. and made about $8,300 after taxes....

More people began to realize his brilliance after his Preakness win, and now even more people are realizing his brillaince after his Jim Dandy jog........

So your not on board yet...no big deal...you'll come around eventually...just might take you watching him crush a few more fields before you bite - and that is cool and that is your perogative....

I knew he was a monster with endless upside after his maiden and Withers wins, and I knew he was the best 3YO this year and probably best horse period on the dirt with the upside to be great after his Preakness run-away in just his first two-turn effort and just his 4th lifetime start...

Now, I am realizing that he really is great after watching him urinate on that group Saturday....BTW, he recieved a 114 Beyer speed figure for that public workout...114!!!!!!!!! - and that is gagged to the wire by Javier.....WOW!

Can anyone say SCARY GOOD!!!

#5 07-30-2006, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moodwalker

Is there anyone else on here who hasn't completely lost their mind over this horse?

He has looked really good in his last two races, but they are just that...two races. One of which the favorite broke down.

(his allowance and Withers were races similar to how strong contender and showing up and other "best ever types" ran, so I'm not counting them)

I agree that he is good, but I am seeing posts saying things like "best horse in a long time" just like we see every year when some colt wins a triple crown race.

Where is all of the ****-talking about Jazil or Discreet Cat? Or maybe even Showing Up?

I'll tell you where it is. Sitting in wait until one of those runs again...

The minute some other three year old wins a diluted race by open lengths, we will hear more of the "second coming of Secretariat" BS.

Honestly, am I the only one who wasn't that impressed? He was kind of supposed to beat those types of horses like that.

He reminds me of Scrappy T last year (Withers, Preakness), except Afleet Alex finished the Preakness and Barbaro didn't.

I love Lael's Showing Up but there is not going to be any talking about him like Bernardini. Bernardini is a man among boys.

If you are comparing him to Scrappy T, well I think you have lost your mind.

You don't run back to back beyers over 110, one in a public work, unless you are an incredible animal. Not to mention as an AP Indy, we probably haven't seen his best yet.

I stole this from another site but this is the look of a great one

http://www.horsephotos.com/covers/cover1543.jpg

1st_Saturday_in_May · #6 07-30-2006, 07:13 PM

Mood, come on man, you have some serious **** against this horse and I cant figure out why. If he hasnt impressed you, there cant be many horses in the world that have...

#7 07-30-2006, 07:15 PM

Invasor, the other Darley, might give him a run. Can't see anyone else.

Scurlogue Champ · #8 07-30-2006, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

I guess you just don't see the brilliance in him that everybody else does....it'll come to you eventually, that I'm sure of...

I thought he was breath-taking after his maiden and Withers victories and even stated that he may be the best 3YO in the country after the Withers on the radio and I was glad that I knew of his brillaince that early because it allowed me to hit big in the Preakness when he was 12-1 and I crushed the TRI and SUPER, etc. and made about $8,300 after taxes....

More people began to realize his brilliance after his Preakness win, and now even more people are realizing his brillaince after his Jim Dandy jog........

So your not on board yet...no big deal...you'll come around eventually...just might take you watching him crush a few more fields before you bite - and that is cool and that is your perogative....

I knew he was a monster with endless upside after his maiden and Withers wins, and I knew he was the best 3YO this year and probably best horse period on the dirt with the upside to be great after his Preakness run-away in just his first two-turn effort and just his 4th lifetime start...

Now, I am realizing that he really is great after watching him urinate on that group Saturday....BTW, he recieved a 114 Beyer speed figure for that public workout...114!!!!!!!!! - and that is gagged to the wire by Javier.....WOW!

Can anyone say SCARY GOOD!!!

I tell you what, if his campaign stays to script as you are so sure it will.

I will come on here and "realize his brilliance."

This is what you wrote

"Barbaro was hands down probably the best turf 3YO in the world this year and maybe the best turf horse in the world period, but I am very comfortable saying that he wanted no part of Bernardini on the dirt.

Preakness (check in a runaway)

Jim Dandy (check in a public workout)

Travers

Jockey Club Gold Cup

BC Classic

Horse of the Year

.....4 more checks to go....."

If he "checks" off 3 out of 4 of those things, I will kiss my own ass...repeatedly.

miraja2 · #9 07-30-2006, 07:26 PM

No. I certainly haven't "lost my mind" over this horse either, although I agree that some other on this board certainly have. Listen I think he is a good horse. Actually he is a VERY GOOD horse. But in my opinion he is not the best 3yo this year....at least not yet. To me the things Barbaro accomplished are more impressive. IF Bernardini wins the Travers, the JCGC, and the BCC, then all the people who say that he is the greatest thing in years and that they should just hand him HOY will have a little more credibility. But that is a big if.

#10 07-30-2006, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moodwalker

I tell you what, if his campaign stays to script as you are so sure it will.

I will come on here and "realize his brilliance."

This is what you wrote

"Barbaro was hands down probably the best turf 3YO in the world this year and maybe the best turf horse in the world period, but I am very comfortable saying that he wanted no part of Bernardini on the dirt.

Preakness (check in a runaway)

Jim Dandy (check in a public workout)

Travers

Jockey Club Gold Cup

BC Classic

Horse of the Year

.....4 more checks to go....."

If he "checks" off 3 out of 4 of those things, I will kiss my own ass...repeatedly.

You better get those lips warmed up. I hate Darley horses but even I can see he is a really special animal. 3 out of 4 is what you want, don't be surprised if 4 out of 4 comes through. He is just better than everyone out there. A lot better.

Scurlogue Champ · #11 07-30-2006, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler

You better get those lips warmed up. I hate Darley horses but even I can see he is a really special animal. 3 out of 4 is what you want, don't be surprised if 4 out of 4 comes through. He is just better than everyone out there. A lot better.

I love Darley horses, I just don't think he is the bees knees.

My lips will be warmed up for sure though, if he does what Joel says he will.

My prediction is that he will be pressured by other horses during races in the future and wilt.

But I do realize I can be wrong, and if so. All the credit to Mr. "realize brilliance"

#12 07-30-2006, 08:06 PM

Hes very talented. He also beat whats left of a demolished three year old crop that has had more injuries than any I can ever think of. Whats left ain't a whole lot. he should air in the Travers but after that hes gonna get a reality check. The older horses are very good this year. And they aren't gonna let him cruise to an easy lead. Apparently running away from hemingway's key gets you into the Hall of Fame. I think not.

Scurlogue Champ · #13 07-30-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Hes very talented. He also beat whats left of a demolished three year old crop that has had more injuries than any I can ever think of. Whats left ain't a whole lot. he should air in the Travers but after that hes gonna get a reality check. The older horses are very good this year. And they aren't gonna let him cruise to an easy lead. Apparently running away from hemingway's key gets you into the Hall of Fame. I think not.

ditto.........

Rupert Pupkin · #14 07-30-2006, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80

Hes very talented. He also beat whats left of a demolished three year old crop that has had more injuries than any I can ever think of. Whats left ain't a whole lot. he should air in the Travers but after that hes gonna get a reality check. The older horses are very good this year. And they aren't gonna let him cruise to an easy lead. Apparently running away from hemingway's key gets you into the Hall of Fame. I think not.

I agree that he beat nobody on Saturday, but the way he did it was extremely impressive. He won under an absolute strangle-hold. He won by about 9 lengths and he could have won by well over 15 lengths. He looks like a really special horse. He's obviously the best 3 year old by far right now. I agree with Oracle that he should have no problem winning the Travers easily. With regard to the older horses, I'm not sure that there is anyone who can beat him. If Flower Alley is as good as he was last year, he may be able to give Bernardidni a battle. If Lava Man can take his form out of California, he may have a shot. Aside from those two, I don't any of the others are as good as Bernardini.

Scurlogue Champ · #15 07-30-2006, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm not ready to crown him HOY, but why is it that everytime a horse wins a race now, they "beat nobody." They're beating somebody. Bernardini won for fun in the Preakness, and was the easiest of winners yesterday. Let me guess, if he wins the Travers, he will have again beat nobody right?

Probably so

sumitas · #16 07-30-2006, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

I thought he was breath-taking after his maiden and Withers victories and even stated that he may be the best 3YO in the country after the Withers on the radio and I was glad that I knew of his brillaince that early because it allowed me to hit big in the Preakness when he was 12-1 and I crushed the TRI and SUPER, etc. and made about $8,300 after taxes....

Your revelling in the tainted Preakness win is imo in poor taste considering the race was marred.

#17 07-30-2006, 09:13 PM

Welcome aboard the Bernardini bandwagon, my good friends!

I've been driving it since March 7 ...

... nice to finally have you all in the club.

sumitas · #18 07-30-2006, 09:16 PM

u r the greatest...

#19 07-30-2006, 09:19 PM

Watch this and you will see the best horse in the World right now:

http://play.www.atr.servecast.net/pp..._07_29_05_1620

#20 07-30-2006, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

I thought he was breath-taking after his maiden and Withers victories and even stated that he may be the best 3YO in the country after the Withers on the radio and I was glad that I knew of his brillaince that early because it allowed me to hit big in the Preakness ...

Aw ... c'mon ... admit it ...

... you read my Bernardini post on the other forum on March 7.

But ... you are to be congratulated for recognizing my prescience ... and jumping on board the bandwagon early ... even though I noticed that you didn't pay the fare.