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Old 12-24-2007, 03:45 AM
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Default 12/26: SA Opener -- Malibu; Sir Beaufort

7th (3:20) Malibu S. (G1)

7 Furlongs (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Desert Code Migliore R 117 L
2 Les Grands Trois Bejarano R 115 L
3 E Z Warrior Smith M E 115 L
4 Unusual Suspect Baze T C 119 L
5 Johnny Eves Flores D R 117 L
6 Ididn'tdoanything Talamo J 115 L
7 Hurry Up Austin Solis A 115 L
8 Carrilero (ARG) Valdivia J Jr 117 L
9 Great Hunter Nakatani C S 119 L
10 Horse Greeley Espinoza V 115 L
11 Silver Stetson Man Prado E S 117 L
12 Cobalt Blue Gomez G K 119 L
13 Incriminate Blanc B 115 L
14 Divine Park Garcia Alan 117



8th (3:52) Sir Beaufort S. (G3)

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Bad Boy Pedroza M A 118 L
2 Warning Zone Leparoux J R 118 L
3 Silent Soul Solis A 118 L
4 Rutledge Cat Bejarano R 118
5 Augment Migliore R 118 L
6 Monterey Jazz Flores D R 118 L
7 Mast Track Baze M C 118 L
8 Mr Napper Tandy (GB) Smith M E 118 L
9 Whatsthescript (IRE) Enriquez I D 118 L
10 Stoneside (IRE) Valenzuela P A 118 L
11 Wing Forward (ARG) Valdivia J Jr 120 L
12 Adagio (GB) Prado E S 118 L
13 Twilight Meteor Gomez G K 118 L
14 No Dream Espinoza V 118
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Old 12-24-2007, 04:57 AM
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On some of his British form, Adagio could win this with his legs tied together, but I haven't really been able to follow him since he went across the pond. Has he held his form? He has been known to be rather inconsistant in the past. He won The Craven will a stupid amount in hand and then was strongly fancied for the 2000 Guineas but was a no show, the same could be said about his run in the Dante at York.

Mr Napper Tandy on the other hand was probably too consistant for his own good (and handicap mark). Off the top of my head he was never out of the first two in all of his starts here in the UK. Finishing second to good horses like Creachadoir and Tariq. He shouldn't be underestimated.
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Old 12-24-2007, 07:19 AM
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the return of great hunter..........
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:04 AM
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Given the shady condition regarding the track I think it would be best served to watch the santa anita races for a while before investing....I heard last weekend (9 days ago) they threw a bunch of sand on the surface and wanted to do some works and it just turned into a quagmire.

Whatever fix they have in place is just a complete band aid.
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:09 AM
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Divine Park is back!
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:12 PM
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Given the shady condition regarding the track I think it would be best served to watch the santa anita races for a while before investing....I heard last weekend (9 days ago) they threw a bunch of sand on the surface and wanted to do some works and it just turned into a quagmire.

Whatever fix they have in place is just a complete band aid.
I agree on the Cushion Track... give it a pass.

At least there is still the turf course to wager on.
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:16 PM
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Santa Anita officials still wary of track surface condition, "We don't know what will happen when it rains again... we may have no other choice but to treat it like the old dirt and then tear it out when the meet ends."

The CHRB stubs its toe again. MORONS
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Old 12-24-2007, 05:52 PM
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In the Sir Beaufort,i'll use 2 horses. Whatsthescript is a nice horse,but I also think Monterey Jazz will be a bitch to run down.If take a 3rd it will be Rutledge Cat,because Bejarano-Frankel are pretty much like dogs stuck together right now.So,my guess is the R CAT is live(for Bejarano to get off Frankel's horse.)Still say M JAZZ gunna try to open up and leave them.
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Old 12-24-2007, 08:32 PM
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Malibu - Race 7

Really think only two horses can win this one.
#2 Les Grand Trois - Frankel/Bejarano 4-1
#3 EZ Warrior - Baffert/Smith 8-1

Leaning towards Les Grand Trois

Sir Beaufort - Race 8
Wide open race and like 3 here all on the outside
#10 Stoneside 8-1
#12 Adagio 15-1
#13 Twilight Metoer 4-1

Seen Dutrow do this before and Adagio has the best past number to shoot for. Enticing...

Race 2
Love #6 Bob Black Jack at 3-1 here. Anything above 2-1 and i might go heavy.

Good luck and Happy Holidays to all....

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Old 12-25-2007, 04:18 AM
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I don't know why you would say those 2 are the only 2 that can win it.They are both trained by guys who's egos are off the charts.So,they have that in common.E Z Warrior hasn't looked the same since had the hoof problem after winning the h juv ch.He was gunna be a monster,but obviously hasn't been that great,and sure hasn't looked like a 7f horse.Le grand twat is a different story.God only knows.I mean he was desperate to get up against Abalanche at this track,and only beat Karakorum Tuxedo by 3 or 4 lengths.They came home slowly in the PERRYVILLE.Atleast it's a 7f horse.I think it could win due to the trainer,but you have grade 2 winners in here(and a Grade 1 winner,)and this horse hasn't won a grade 3 yet.If I take 3,they will be Devine Park(nice action on this horse,but hate the post,) G Hunter(a true 7f horse with questionable heart,but will probably produce if a fast opening quarter,) and Cobalt Blue seems like a 7f horse as well.If took more horses then probably would use the G TWAT cuz Frankel loves to win races with horses that pay very little to anybody(except him.)Can't wait for the 3/5 shots with Bejarano/Frankel in the coming weeks.They probably won't run this race fairly.Always gotta play games.Wouldn't be surprised if the pace sucks,and somebody laying 2nd or 3rd draws off.It's just the normal **** they pull the 1st week of this meet.

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Old 12-25-2007, 08:30 AM
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Default How could they spend $10 million in replacing

the main track and not be completely sure about drainage? Someone has some "splain'in" to do

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Old 12-25-2007, 02:17 PM
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I'll play #1 Desert Code to win. Two G3 wins albeit vs. small fields but like his Place and Show results in two other G3 races, one at the distance on an AW track and the other at 6f on the turf. Also like his record on AW tracks (4:2-0-1), second start off the layoff, reunites with Migliore and with the rail post he should rate off scary fast #5 pace setter Johnny Eves and hoping he can hold off #9 Great Hunter who ran well off the layoff to win G2.

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Old 12-25-2007, 03:10 PM
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Race 2
Love #6 Bob Black Jack at 3-1 here. Anything above 2-1 and i might go heavy.



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Old 12-25-2007, 03:32 PM
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To me #3 Spring at Last looks a cinch....too much egg nog?

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Old 12-25-2007, 05:38 PM
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I'll play #1 Desert Code to win. Two G3 wins albeit vs. small fields but like his Place and Show results in two other G3 races, one at the distance on an AW track and the other at 6f on the turf. Also like his record on AW tracks (4:2-0-1), second start off the layoff, reunites with Migliore and with the rail post he should rate off scary fast #5 pace setter Johnny Eves and hoping he can hold off #9 Great Hunter who ran well off the layoff to win G2.

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IT'S A DECENT HORSE.I think 6 or 6 and a half is better for him than 7,but unfortunately Anita 7f doesn't play like a real 7f.Track favors this type horse more than it does the favorites in this race.This is the type of horse I fear in here(ain't that good,but the best horses just may not be able to close on this track.) I don't trust them to set the hot pace.Whateva the paper says gunna happen,these jocks try to do the opposite.
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Old 12-25-2007, 07:07 PM
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To me #3 Spring at Last looks a cinch....too much egg nog?

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5th: Turnbolt
6th: Buck
7th: Divine Park
8th:Mr Nappy Tandy
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Old 12-26-2007, 01:20 AM
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The Bet:

$5 DD

EZ Warrior/ Johnny EVes with Augment/Bad Boy
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Old 12-26-2007, 07:17 AM
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In the Sir Beaufort,i'll use 2 horses. Whatsthescript is a nice horse,but I also think Monterey Jazz will be a bitch to run down.If take a 3rd it will be Rutledge Cat,because Bejarano-Frankel are pretty much like dogs stuck together right now.So,my guess is the R CAT is live(for Bejarano to get off Frankel's horse.)Still say M JAZZ gunna try to open up and leave them.
Monterey Jazz could be very tough.
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Old 12-26-2007, 08:56 AM
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Monterey Jazz could be very tough.
I like him as well.

Really like Carrilero in the Malibu. Think the distance suits him and the surface will not be a problem. He's a steal at 20-1.
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Old 12-26-2007, 12:48 PM
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I like him as well.

Really like Carrilero in the Malibu. Think the distance suits him and the surface will not be a problem. He's a steal at 20-1.
I think he has a chance if they go really hot.I just know the **** that goes on at this track,and don't trust the back horses to move. For some reason this track favors horses like the horse who won it last year.
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