English Training Methods

[magic_idol]

Just finished talking to my breaker about English training tech as oppossed to how we train our horses in australia absolutely fasinating !!!, All i can say is would love to see it in person but wouldn't want to be paid per horse !!! as they are here we punch out about 4 a hour where as in uk its 3 to 4 per day !!plus there is no way i could ever be able to find a hill here would have to make it myself ;-) !!!!!

God Save the Queen & ASCOT

[Scurlogue Champ]

Hey man,

Explain how they do it differently. I really would like to know.

I know that Freedman's man can have one ready in 20 minutes sometimes...

Amazing

(I meant breaking the yearlings here)

[magic_idol]

Originally Posted by moodwalker

Hey man,

Explain how they do it differently. I really would like to know.

I know that Freedman's man can have one ready in 20 minutes sometimes...

Amazing

Where we tend to do 2 or 3 laps slow work & on fast mornings roll off from the 1200 to gallop from the 1000 with track work basically lasting 15 minutes

In England they basically work slow work lap after lap with a faster no good horse joining the derby chance after 2 laps they also work up a hill which is basically full of wood shavings about a foot deep & the ones that get to the top & still have abit of fire in them are the ones likely to continue onto the derby they work a horse for over a hour !!!!

As well as they cant understand our way of bringing up our distance horses through the distances 1200 to 1400 onto 1600 to1800 then 2000 & over they put them in a 2500 mtre race first up !!!!
Has only ever been done here very rearly robbie laing did it but he trialled his horse 3 times over 1000 in 1 day.

Apparently they leave there good horses home as they dont want to risk them travelling & send mainly their good time form horses over abit like there good 2nd string horses

Would be bloody interesting to see thats for sure

[Scurlogue Champ]

I'm sorry, I misread...

I saw where you said you were talking to your "breaker" and I thought you were comparing the way the English break their horses versus the Aussies.

With the training patterns, I know what you are talking about now.

Roomed with the two lads from England during the lead up to the Spring Carnival that were associated with the English horse Carte Diamond (the one that busted through the rail during trackwork at Flemington in 2005)

They were just running that thing up Jim Conlan's hill everyday and galloping him for hours on end.

Didn't want to get him any preps, just gallop him up that 6 furlong hill until fit and run him in the goddamned Melbourne Cup.

Flemington's vet scratched him because he did a tendon about 8 months before the Cup, but they were gonna run him in the big one with no prep race at all and thought they would win.

Those Brits that come down under are usually a step below their best. They consider their "handicap" horses to be on par with the Aussie Group One Stayers.

I kind of doubt their assertion, but the Japs sure did put a wallop on the home team.

[NoChanceToDance]

We do have a real different way or training horses.

Hill work is essential for fitness and most trainers worship hill work. In Newmarket we have Warren Hill on the main gallops in Moulton Road, the hill isn't that much of a climb, but it's long and the further you go the steeper it gets.

You are on about LSD (not the drug) but Long Slow Distance work. Also something that people use regularly, it is superb for stamina. Just a long pice of steady canter work and just trying to quicken it just before you finish.

They usually about 4-5 days before a race the horse will usually get a good solid blow out of 5 or 6 furlongs just to blow away any remaining cobwebs they might have.

I had to do an assignment at college on different training methods, and when i get my old laptop back and transfer all the data to my new one, i will try and post it on here.

Also, a lot of 'road work' is carried out. Not always on the road, but especially for horses just coming back from injury they could be doing up to 2 hours of ridden walking each morning

[magic_idol]

You would never get a track rider if you trained like that here,HaHaHa you have to check they arent out on the track havin a smoke just for that 15 minutes ( just jokin )

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by Cardus

I've seen pictures and read quotes from trainers about working their horses on the beach. That amazes me, and its something that no trainer would even consider doing here. Why do your trainers put your horses on the sand?

It's very good for fitness and stamina. Sand is a soft, safe surface but is also very good for fitness, it gives them a proper workout.

Also, some trainers just do it to change it up a bit. If a horse isn't enjoying his/her excerise he/she won't do it and therefore will not run well at the track. Changing the work and place it excerises can give the horse more enthusiasm.

A change of scenery does wonders for Racehorses

[Scurlogue Champ]

I swear to god that when I went to the beach with some of the horses down under, that sometimes dolphins would come up and swim right there alongside of the horse.

A few of the horses freaked the eff out (the ones from England) but some of them seemed to enjoy the dolphins and the lead pony would stick his head under the water looking for them.

Those horses down there seemed to love the beach work and/or swimming.

[magic_idol]

it is great for the older horses it gives them a change plus if one of your horse is carring a injury it helps with that, In swan hill they had a salt lake with is basically where all the salt ends up so the farmers can use the rest of the water for irrigation.One of the trainers used to swim his horses in the lake as it was great for stamina & injuries.