who will retire first, and why?

Indian Charlie · #1 05-20-2007, 08:30 PM

I say curlin is 1/9 to retire before street sense. for the obvious reasons. anyone care to differ?

King Glorious · #2 05-20-2007, 08:34 PM

I think it's going to be Street Sense and I think it will be before the summer is over. Today's horses just can't take the kind of tough races he's had back to back to back to back. Especially with the short breaks. He's already won the Derby. I think it's going to be Street Sense. But Curlin won't be far behind. I'd say we have only a 25% chance of seeing one of them in the BC and a 10% chance of seeing both.

Mortimer · #3 05-20-2007, 08:49 PM

What would it take to get you to retire?

King Glorious · #4 05-20-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

What would it take to get you to retire?

U are a great guy.

Bobby Fischer · #5 05-20-2007, 08:55 PM

Street Cry and Smart Strike may have a lot to do with it.

Smart Strike is pretty hot right now. Smart Strike is already listed 75k could even go up a little. Not sure of the age/condition of the Stallion, but with that asset already maxed out, Curlin can retire and start his own legacy whenever they feel he is ready.
Street Sense is one of Street Cry's leading runners. Street Sense seems genuinely healthy , the Bluegrass was basically a solid work, so after 2 big races, one of which was all-out, he should be fine after a month or so off. Street Cry is a bargain at "only" 30k listed as of now and it is a good bet to increase a bit on his own before Street Sense is retired. Street Sense running a big 3yo campaign could be a major asset to his sire, and his future earnings at stud.

Mortimer · #6 05-20-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

U are a great guy.

It's a gift.

sumitas · #7 05-20-2007, 09:12 PM

Curlin does not come from the greatest family which may adveresely affect his stud career. but his family is solid with dams that have produced many runners and some black type.

outofthebox · #8 05-20-2007, 09:53 PM

I would hope both of them will finish out the 3 yo season. I mean we need some horses to challenge Invasor, dont we....Whatever happened to the days when the 3yo champion would head out to California and aim for the Strub series for 4 yo's.....

Cannon Shell · #9 05-20-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by outofthebox

I would hope both of them will finish out the 3 yo season. I mean we need some horses to challenge Invasor, dont we....Whatever happened to the days when the 3yo champion would head out to California and aim for the Strub series for 4 yo's.....

seems like light years ago

justindew · #10 05-20-2007, 10:59 PM

Light years are a measure of distance, not time.

Thanks. I'll be here all week.

blackthroatedwind · #11 05-20-2007, 11:00 PM

I thought it was a Pearl Jam song.

Danzig · #12 05-21-2007, 05:14 AM

i'd hate to see any of them go.

hard to believe tafel would be in a rush to retire--if he was interested in easy money, he'd have sold the guy back after the juvie, when offers started pouring in.
as for curlin, smart strike isn't exactly a huge horse, so i don't know that there will be a lot of interest in curlin-just like there wasn't in medaglia d'oro. el prado does well, as does smart strike, but they aren't A-list...

i think the one to watch is hard spun-everyone is looking for a colt by danzig to step in where the sire left off. hard spun is a good prospect, danzig has several in the top of the sires list, but no BIG, classic horse on the racetrack lately...talking stateside here of course...

jman5581 · #13 05-21-2007, 08:28 AM

What do you mean Smart Strike isn't huge? I think he's had as much success as Street Cry in terms of average runner earnings, has he not?

KY_Sasquash · #14 05-21-2007, 09:32 AM

barring an injury, Street Sense will be around this year and next.

Danzig · #15 05-21-2007, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jman5581

What do you mean Smart Strike isn't huge? I think he's had as much success as Street Cry in terms of average runner earnings, has he not?

and street crys first crop is running this year, as three year olds...hard to compare the two
yeah, smart strike is having a heck of a year, but no, he's not HUGE. i think a lot more people would be interested in street cry than smart strike. but i don't see the clamor like in past years with smarty, with afleet alex...probably because the breeding industry has taken a bit of a down turn lately.

tycharles01 · #16 05-21-2007, 11:04 AM

If any retire this year it will be after the BC

jman5581 · #17 05-21-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i think the one to watch is hard spun-everyone is looking for a colt by danzig to step in where the sire left off. hard spun is a good prospect, danzig has several in the top of the sires list, but no BIG, classic horse on the racetrack lately...talking stateside here of course...

See Exchange Rate.

Danzig · #18 05-21-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tycharles01

If any retire this year it will be after the BC

well, here's hoping. but we all know the nature of the business, and altho we want all of them to remain healthy and injury-free, that may not be the case. but i'd like to see no early retirements!

Danzig · #19 05-21-2007, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jman5581

See Exchange Rate.

exchange rate was a classic race performer?

Pedigree Ann · #20 05-21-2007, 11:16 AM

being a son of an internationally respected and desirable stallion like Danzig, Hard Spun is the biggest candidate for early retirement. If he had won the Derby or Preakness, the next stone-bruise might have been enough. But he needs a major G1 triumph on his CV before he goes to stud - the Belmont, Travers, JC Gold Cup, etc.; they'll keep going at least until he has one of these.