Hmmm Keeneland's 2 year old in training sale

[Round Pen]

I just thought this deserved to be brought up. I know most everyone here has a different opinion about 2 year old in training sales whether it be good or bad.


I have been anxiously awaiting the Keeneland sale because it will be the first of it's kind to breeze over the polytrack. Unfortunately I did not get to make it to this years sale(too many in training here). But HOLY COW go take a look at the breeze sheet from today. Not one but two horses go in 20.1, I know I make my living doing this but that's Unreal. THe fastest 1/8th of the day in 9.3 . Man O man I never knew the could make Polytrack so fast.
There were horses by sires who typically have NO speed go in 21 and Change.
I quess though if all off these speed balls come back alright polytrack has done its job.

Just would be interested to have someone give there opinion of the day that was there and watched all the breezes.



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[Cajungator26]

While I wasn't there, I have heard that the track is the fastest it has ever been and that several track records have been broken in the first two days of opening. There was a two year old that went 44:2 this morning, although that work was officially published as slower.

I heard that Carnacks Choice is now the 7 furlong track record holder. LOL

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I'm sure every attempt was made to quicken the track---as it was almost painful to watch races in the first two weeks of last years KEE fall meet, when the polytrack debuted.

Basically, every horse was taken in hand early, and inspite of horses getting loose on uncontested leads, through soft early fractions, they would still fade markedly late...even short priced logical horses.

Andy Beyer wrote about it--and it seemed an effort was made to speed up the track in the final week of last fall's meet.

A pair of 2-year-olds working in 20 1/5ths for a quarter mile in the preview....that's just insane.

The fastest quarter mile clocking at a 2-year-old in training sale last year was jointly held at 20 3/5ths by Tiz Wonderful and Day Pass. This year, prior to KEE, the fastest quarter mile preview was 20 4/5ths. 0.60 seconds may not sound like much---but, at that rate of speed, it's a far more signifcant margin than people think. It's about five lengths.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I'm sure every attempt was made to quicken the track---as it was almost painful to watch races in the first two weeks of last years KEE fall meet, when the polytrack debuted.

Basically, every horse was taken in hand early, and inspite of horses getting loose on uncontested leads, through soft early fractions, they would still fade markedly late...even short priced logical horses.

Andy Beyer wrote about it--and it seemed an effort was made to speed up the track in the final week of last fall's meet.

A pair of 2-year-olds working in 20 1/5ths for a quarter mile in the preview....that's just insane.

The fastest quarter mile clocking at a 2-year-old in training sale last year was jointly held at 20 3/5ths by Tiz Wonderful and Day Pass. This year, prior to KEE, the fastest quarter mile preview was 20 4/5ths. 0.60 seconds may not sound like much---but, at that rate of speed, it's a far more signifcant margin than people think. It's about five lengths.

Even with the fast track early speed is not holding. Every race looks a turf race. I guess that is why I cashed om x-mas kid.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Yes, but it's not to the point of comedy like it was early on last fall....when Seattle Slew might have had a hard time winning a decent alw race in wire-to-wire fashion.

[Grits]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Even with the fast track early speed is not holding. Every race looks a turf race. I guess that is why I cashed om x-mas kid.

Sure held in the race prior to the Ashland since it was that race the new 7 furlong record was set. Octave, near odds on, didn't run well. Christmas Kid ran very well.

[citycat]

True enough the times were fast but as you know they do not write races for 1/8 and 1/4 mile. Yes there was speed aplenty yesterday but only the really big boys with bank rolls get caught up with the fastest times or "world records" as Keeneland is boasting.

You really look at how the horse "does it" if that makes sense. How they "cover the ground" to make your decisions on whether or not you want to bid on the horse next week.

When the Mineshaft filly posted the 9 3/5 yes there was a gasp among the folks there. Everyone was expecting something from this filly who was purchased at the KEESEP06 sale for 400K. It definitely "put the pressure" on the Kingmambo colt (KEESEP06) who sold for 1.25 million and I kind of felt bad when he went in 10 3/5. But when you look at how they did it and the gallop out the Kingmambo was more impressive than the Mineshaft filly. (Granted all the horses there were nice, not knocking the Mineshaft filly just trying to illustrate my point).

Nice day but it was butt-cold to sit there from 1030-1700. After the polytrack works they had about a dozen turf works. I didnt think this went well at all. Those young horses had no idea what the dogs out there were and all seemed very skiddish of the orange cones. The last worker of the day was so confused he didnt know what to do and worked in 14 1/5. Kind of unfair to these youngesters I thought. Also you had to take into consideration that for the ones on the turf working 1/4 they were like six wide on the turn to start.

My point would be that you have to be careful if you just look at a computer screen and get blown away by a time. Just ask the folks with The Green Monkey (well they have so much money they probably do not care).

Anyways I got my three circled and we will see how the sale goes next Tuesday.