Where a horse is born....

[whodey17]

Why does it matter where a horse is born? Shouldn't the blood lines be the most important factor. Who cares if the horse was born in New Jersey, Wisconsin or Kentucky. Heck, you can have a horse with the same bloodlines born in all three states. So my question is, why do people make such a big deal where a horse is born?

[pmayjr]

You're right about bloodlines, but I'm pretty sure Wisconsin, and where I'm from, Minnesota, doesn't have any A.P. Indy babies born and bred in the state. All the good ones seem to be in KY, Florida, Cali, the UK, but not in Minnesota lol.

I was looking at the Midwest sires issue of the DRF that came about a month ago with the Sunday DRFs, and I was shocked to see Minnesota that had a Sire that made the 2 year old sire rankings. His name was Thatsusintheolebean. His sire was El Prado, and he was horse of the year at Canterbury back in the 90s. Eventhough his dad was El Prado, I think he won more on dirt than turf. He died last year, but still had about 20-25 horses that made it to the track last year. In that mix he got enough winners to make the bottom of the list. MINNESOTA REPRESENT LOL!

But that example right there is the reason why in the end, states do matter. Because most states don't get the horses with the big-time bloodlines to be a major player against KY, FL, etc etc etc.

[pointman]

Are you asking where the horse is born or bred? Many states offer stakes races restricted to horses bred in their state for economic incentives. For example, if a horse is bred in New York that horse can run in restricted stakes that offer good purses against competition that is not as good as open competition. I hope that answers the question.

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by pointman

Are you asking where the horse is born or bred? Many states offer stakes races restricted to horses bred in their state for economic incentives. For example, if a horse is bred in New York that horse can run in restricted stakes that offer good purses against competition that is not as good as open competition. I hope that answers the question.

Where they are born. If I lived in Wisconsin and I shipped my mare to KY to be bred to AP Indy and then shipped my mare back to Wisconsin the foal would be a Wisconsin foal but with AP Indy bloodlines.

Good point about the state bred races.

[pointman]

Thanks, have to admit where they are born is beyond my knowledge, although, I am sure others on the site know. I can only guess that states may offer similar incentives to have foals born in their state, but that is just a guess.

[Cajungator26]

I would say it has something to do with the fact that the majority of decent broodmares are kept at the farms in Kentucky (like Mill Ridge, etc.)

[Suffolk Shippers]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

You're right about bloodlines, but I'm pretty sure Wisconsin, and where I'm from, Minnesota, doesn't have any A.P. Indy babies born and bred in the state. All the good ones seem to be in KY, Florida, Cali, the UK, but not in Minnesota lol.

I was looking at the Midwest sires issue of the DRF that came about a month ago with the Sunday DRFs, and I was shocked to see Minnesota that had a Sire that made the 2 year old sire rankings. His name was Thatsusintheolebean. His sire was El Prado, and he was horse of the year at Canterbury back in the 90s. Eventhough his dad was El Prado, I think he won more on dirt than turf. He died last year, but still had about 20-25 horses that made it to the track last year. In that mix he got enough winners to make the bottom of the list. MINNESOTA REPRESENT LOL!

But that example right there is the reason why in the end, states do matter. Because most states don't get the horses with the big-time bloodlines to be a major player against KY, FL, etc etc etc.

The Minnesota breds are about as popular as the Massachusetts breds

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers

The Minnesota breds are about as popular as the Massachusetts breds

easy now...i own a minnesota bred...course he couldn't run worth a damn...