Prado on Casino Drive

[asudevil]

Shocker.

[stonegossard]

Prado loses the mount on Big Brown.....then is the jock on the horse that beats Big Brown. I would say it's safe to say that Dutrow wont be riding Prado anymore if CD beats BB.


http://drf.com/news/article/94957.html

[Sightseek]

When did he ever have the mount on Big Brown? Only Rose & Kent D have ridden him.

[MisterB]

Prado is Dutrows go to guy. He won't bite off his nose to spite his face.

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Prado loses the mount on Big Brown.....then is the jock on the horse that beats Big Brown. I would say it's safe to say that Dutrow wont be riding Prado anymore if CD beats BB.


http://drf.com/news/article/94957.html

anyone else surprised by this, for 2 reasons?

a) as previously stated, prado and dutrow have a relationship...wouldn't it seem odd if prado beats big brown?

b) from the casino drive side...prado and dutrow have a relationship...how did it work out for hard spun last year when he had TAP's co-main man riding him against rags?

[robfla]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

When did he ever have the mount on Big Brown? Only Rose & Kent D have ridden him.

wasnt he listed as the rider the day he broke his maiden?

jeremy rose filled in when prado had a spill or fell ill

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

When did he ever have the mount on Big Brown? Only Rose & Kent D have ridden him.

Prado worked the horse after the purchase and Dutrow wanted Prado on the horse. The owners wanted Desroemeaux.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Prado worked the horse after the purchase and Dutrow wanted Prado on the horse. The owners wanted Desroemeaux.

I hear the horse wanted Mike Smith.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

anyone else surprised by this, for 2 reasons?

a) as previously stated, prado and dutrow have a relationship...wouldn't it seem odd if prado beats big brown?

b) from the casino drive side...prado and dutrow have a relationship...how did it work out for hard spun last year when he had TAP's co-main man riding him against rags?

I dont think Prado would risk his whole career to throw/not try in one race. If Prado gave CD a "questionable" ride a lot of trainers would never ride him again.

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

I dont think Prado would risk his whole career to throw/not try in one race. If Prado gave CD a "questionable" ride a lot of trainers would never ride him again.

Yes, you can plainly see how it has affected Gomez's career...Hard Spun walks the shedrow faster than they went in the Belmont last year...

[Antitrust32]

Casino Drive's five furlong work Wednesday was slower than Curlin's six furlong work Monday.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Yes, you can plainly see how it has affected Gomez's career...

Gomez didnt stiff HS. He just gave a bad ride. Cant really compare the 2 situations.

I think people are implying that because of the relationship between Prado/Dutrow, Prado might not try. I doubt Prado would be that stupid to jeopardize his whole future.

[philcski]

Anybody insinuating that Prado would stiff the ride on Casino Drive to try to beat Big Brown (or alternatively, to let Big Brown win) is really off base.


He isn't Jerry Bailey.

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Gomez didnt stiff HS. He just gave a bad ride. Cant really compare the 2 situations.

I think people are implying that because of the relationship between Prado/Dutrow, Prado might not try. I doubt Prado would be that stupid to jeopardize his whole future.

So you are saying that there isn't anyone else out there, besides me and probably Porter, that thinks it was more than just a bad ride? 115 and 1/5 for 3/4's with Hard Spun under a Santos-like stranglehold, watching Curlin the whole way and keeping him pinned down on the rail, moving whenever he moved, while Rags was able to run in the clear the whole way.

Remember, Gomez was Rags jock and Porter wouldn't let him out of the commitment after TAP announce she was going to run.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by robfla

wasnt he listed as the rider the day he broke his maiden?

jeremy rose filled in when prado had a spill or fell ill

Yes.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/...0,712528.story

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You seem to be forgetting that Prado rode the Preakness to win, like he was supposed to. He boxed in Big brown out of the first turn and Dutrow complained about it in the press. Prado is a pro, I doubt he'll do anything but give his best out there.

How did Prado box in BB? This is bull crap.

[Quiet Chris]

The Japanese connections are very sharp. Prado knows how to win this race. He probably isn't on the better horse but he might be on a good enough horse if Kent moves too soon, if Big Brown just doesn't take to the Belmont track, his feet act up, or he doesn't want to run 12f. The sure TC winner isn't that sure, just likely.

If Spectacular Bid can lose, Big Brown could easily lose.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

He tried to - KJD was able to get outside - but at something of a cost.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He tried to - KJD was able to get outside - but at something of a cost.

What did it cost him?

[Quiet Chris]

Originally Posted by MisterB

How did Prado box in BB? This is bull crap.

Dutrow was just crying like a little girl for some reason. He should never cry about jockeys doing what Prado did considering he has used jockeys a few times to do things that weren't in the best interest of the horse they were riding.

Dutrow can say what he wants but he can't be happy to see Prado on his main competition. Prado is a better rider than Kent. Kent gets nervous, Prado does not. It probably won't matter though unless Casino Drive is incredibly talented.