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Old 02-05-2007, 04:14 PM
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Default Is Aqu going to be open Wed?

If the weather is okay, will they run? Or are the jockeys still refusing?
Any info would be appreciated.

On a sad note, Jimmy O was one of the horses euthanized along with Cadilac Cruiser. I had him on my watch list and bet him last time when Chantal rode him at 13/1. I was going to play him on Saturday but my hangover prevented me from it. RIP Jimmy O (and Cadilac Cruiser).
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Old 02-05-2007, 04:16 PM
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The riders didn't cancel Sunday.

It is supposed to be in the high 20s both Wednesday and Thursday so there is no reason they won't be running.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:34 PM
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They will be running Wednesday.

The jockeys did refuse to ride Sunday from what I've read and heard. It wasn't due to track conditions or weather. The dispoute involves which hospital the jockeys go to after a spill.

The hospital in Jamaica, NY is still going to be the hospital the jockeys go to if they suffer a serious injury, or if it is a head injury (they have the facilities to handle these injuries). The jockeys were not particularly impressed with their treatment in general at Jamaica Hospital, and will now be taken to North Shore University Hospital for less serious injuries.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:47 PM
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The jockeys did refuse to ride Sunday from what I've read and heard. It wasn't due to track conditions or weather. The dispoute involves which hospital the jockeys go to after a spill.

Let me repeat....the jockeys did NOT cause Sunday's cancellation by refusing to ride on that day. NYRA cancelled the Sunday races on Saturday afternoon shortly after the jockeys refused to ride out the remainder of the Saturday card. While part of NYRA's decision was based on the impending cold on Sunday, and thus the feeling the jockeys well may not have ridden, the decision was made strictly by NYRA and NOT the jockeys.
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Old 02-05-2007, 11:57 PM
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The jockeys may not have cancelled the performace, but they were not going to ride.

NYRA made the decision to cancel, in part because of the weather, but if the jocks aren't going to ride the weather is irrelevant.

I suppose that works both ways, but it was not a weather decision alone on NYRA's part.

The jockeys refusal to ride was not based on weather or track conditions. It was based purely on the hospital issue.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:01 AM
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The jockeys may not have cancelled the performace, but they were not going to ride.

NYRA made the decision to cancel, in part because of the weather, but if the jocks aren't going to ride the weather is irrelevant.

I suppose that works both ways, but it was not a weather decision alone on NYRA's part.

The jockeys refusal to ride was not based on weather or track conditions. It was based purely on the hospital issue.
We are well aware of the hospital issue, and it has been discussed at length on this board and ATRAB, but the Sunday card was NOT cancelled because the riders refused to ride, as you stated. The jockeys were not involved in the decision to cancel the Sunday card.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:05 AM
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We are well aware of the hospital issue, and it has been discussed at length on this board and ATRAB, but the Sunday card was NOT cancelled because the riders refused to ride, as you stated. The jockeys were not involved in the decision to cancel the Sunday card.

Oh yes, and nobody was aware of the weather.

NYRA itself acknowledges that their decision was based in part because of the weather, in part because of the hospital issue.

The jockeys only had one reason to not ride, the hospital issue. There would have been no racing at AQU if the weather was 70 and sunny without the hospital issue being resolved.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:10 AM
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Oh yes, and nobody was aware of the weather.

NYRA itself acknowledges that their decision was based in part because of the weather, in part because of the hospital issue.

The jockeys only had one reason to not ride, the hospital issue. There would have been no racing at AQU if the weather was 70 and sunny without the hospital issue being resolved.

What I took exception to was your inaccurate statement that racing was cancelled Sunday because the jockeys refused to ride. That is simply not true. They were, in fact, surprised when they heard Sunday's races had been cancelled.

Whether or not the riders would have ridden Sunday had NYRA not cancelled the card is pure speculation.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:27 AM
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What I took exception to was your inaccurate statement that racing was cancelled Sunday because the jockeys refused to ride. That is simply not true. They were, in fact, surprised when they heard Sunday's races had been cancelled.

Whether or not the riders would have ridden Sunday had NYRA not cancelled the card is pure speculation.
Well, I didn't exactly say that racing was cancelled sunday because the jockeys refused to ride. I said the jockeys refused to ride. I did not speculate on why racing was cancelled, or who cancelled it.

I'm new here, so I'm a little unaware of how informed the forum in general was regarding the hospital issue, which would be the only obstacle to racing on Wednesday.

I also probably misinterpreted your initial post that hinted that the only reason not to run Wendnesday would be weather related. This is why I brought up the hospital issue in the first place.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:31 AM
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Well, I didn't exactly say that racing was cancelled sunday because the jockeys refused to ride. I said the jockeys refused to ride. I did not speculate on why racing was cancelled, or who cancelled it.

I'm new here, so I'm a little unaware of how informed the forum in general was regarding the hospital issue, which would be the only obstacle to racing on Wednesday.

I also probably misinterpreted your initial post that hinted that the only reason not to run Wendnesday would be weather related. This is why I brought up the hospital issue in the first place.
No problem.

This site is hosted by Steve Byk, who is also one of the hosts of ATRAB, and this issue was discussed at length on that show today.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:33 AM
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I guess he went from a horse to a host in one swift edit.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:34 AM
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One of the horses of ATRAB?

I changed it before you got to it wiseazz.

I'm a little tired....you know from doing all that tedious replay watching and note taking. You should try it.
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:40 AM
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Oh yea!....well......You are Society Selection to my Pleasant Home
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Old 02-06-2007, 12:41 AM
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Oh yea!....well......You are Society Selection to my Pleasant Home

You're just jealous.....and not just because I'm so much better looking than you.





Don't ya just hate it when someone beats you to your own inane material?
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