SNS - Possible screwed?

[Scav]

I don't think since the new configuration that a horse has won from the 12 hole.....

$1 Million Sunshine Millions Classic (Race 10, 5:45 p.m.), 4 & Up, 1 1/8 Miles
1. DRY MARTINI, 120, Velasquez, C
2. GET FUNKY, 120, Valdivia, Jr., J
3. SUMMER BOOK, 122, Guidry, M
4. BLAZING RATE, 120, Velez, Jr., J
5. SILVER WAGON, 122, Prado, E
6. REHOBOTH, 120, Cruz, M
7. PAPI CHULLO, 122, Smith, M
8. MCCANN'S MOJAVE, 122, Alvarado, F
9. TEXCESS, 122, Gomez, G
10. BOB'S PROUD MOMENT, 122, Bejarano, R
11. ARMENIAN SUMMER, 122, Velazquez, J
12. SWEETNORTHERNSAINT, 120, Dominguez, R

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Scav

I don't think since the new configuration that a horse has won from the 12 hole.....

$1 Million Sunshine Millions Classic (Race 10, 5:45 p.m.), 4 & Up, 1 1/8 Miles
1. DRY MARTINI, 120, Velasquez, C
2. GET FUNKY, 120, Valdivia, Jr., J
3. SUMMER BOOK, 122, Guidry, M
4. BLAZING RATE, 120, Velez, Jr., J
5. SILVER WAGON, 122, Prado, E
6. REHOBOTH, 120, Cruz, M
7. PAPI CHULLO, 122, Smith, M
8. MCCANN'S MOJAVE, 122, Alvarado, F
9. TEXCESS, 122, Gomez, G
10. BOB'S PROUD MOMENT, 122, Bejarano, R
11. ARMENIAN SUMMER, 122, Velazquez, J
12. SWEETNORTHERNSAINT, 120, Dominguez, R

good to know the RATE is alive and kicking. Got sore last year and went downhill in a hurry

[Sightseek]

This is a solid race this year. Now time to GET FUNKY!

[Scav]

He really got screwed, but that might help the odds a little, maybe get the ML

[Scav]

12 hole is 0-1 this year, don't have last years stats

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

That post is no bargain surely but he lays over these in terms of quality. As long as the last race didn't take too much out of him he'll be okay.

Especially with Ramon, he is bound to do something stupid all the way out there

Should scratch the horse.

[blackthroatedwind]

Dry Martini got the rail and a positive rider switch.

I kind of hate to see a horse like Sweetnorthernsaint get screwed by that post on such an unfair track.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Dry Martini got the rail and a positive rider switch.

I kind of hate to see a horse like Sweetnorthernsaint get screwed by that post on such an unfair track.

Total situation where he is going to run huge to get screwed and be gutted for the year

[ArlJim78]

At that track and distance, the 12 hole is a death sentence.

If there is another alternative for him I would think that they might want to scratch.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

At that track and distance, the 12 hole is a death sentence.

If there is another alternative for him I would think that they might want to scratch.

Their won't be for a million dollars, he does lay over this field and it might help the odds (maybe get 5/2 now that the media will go nuts about the 12 hole?)

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

At that track and distance, the 12 hole is a death sentence.

If there is another alternative for him I would think that they might want to scratch.

I think this track has been pretty even this year and there was one full field of 3YO maidens going 1 1/8th where the 10 and 11 were a close second and third.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Scav

Their won't be for a million dollars, he does lay over this field and it might help the odds (maybe get 5/2 now that the media will go nuts about the 12 hole?)

I am not immediately familiar with the field but Dry Martini is OK. He has run three straight triple digit Beyers and could be improving.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah he is a allright horse, but I don't see much else in here. Silver Wagon is a good sprinter but can he get 9 furlongs? I'm not too crazy about anyone else. Armenian Summer ran his balls off last week so I'm not crazy about him shipping in 2 weeks later and loses Gomez.

Yeah, I just looked through it, and it's a mediocre bunch.

[Scav]

Out of curiousity, how does SNS get weight from this group?

[philcski]

Without looking at the PP's, I'm guessing there's a good chance Papi Chullo sucks up for 3rd or 4th. Doesn't he always??

I've watched exactly zero races from Gulfstream this year, so I'm about the last person to ask on this, but I don't recall any horse winning from the 11 or 12 hole last year at 9F...?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Scav

Out of curiousity, how does SNS get weight from this group?

I guess 4YOs vs olders.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm guessing age. Because all of the other 4 year olds carry 120.

2lbs in TG terms is about a half length, could mean the difference from that crazy post

[blackthroatedwind]

Ramon is not a panicker and has a decent ability to get inside from outside posts. That being said, that post is problematic, though gunning is probably the right move. He will have to be a few lengths the best, at least, to overcome that post, which is highly debatable. It'll be easier when the pps are out however.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I agree, he is a pretty calm rider. Should be interesting.

Looking right now to see what speed is inside of him.....