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![]() I'm talking all-time. It seems that these days the world has to do "Mount Rushmore" and crap like that in every sport. But there have been some incredible horses that don't necessarily get mentioned with the all-time greats enough in my opinion.
I'm going with Affirmed. Man his 4-year-old season was incredible. |
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![]() My Big Boy
50 10 12 10 $1,196,102
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![]() he was a workhorse blue collar type
Saginaw ![]() 41 21 6 3 $974K
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"Wise men talk because they have something to say, fools talk because they have to say something" - Plato |
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![]() Personally I think Eclipse doesn’t get enough credit.
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![]() Wise Dan
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"Wise men talk because they have something to say, fools talk because they have to say something" - Plato |
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![]() Another one I’ll throw out there: Lady’s Secret
Was Ruffian actually better than her? |
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![]() Seriously?
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB |
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![]() Go for Wand. I don’t think there are many horses that can be fast enough to run 7f in 1:21, come back just nine days later and run 10f in 2:00 4/5, then return a month later and go 9f in 1:45 4/5 (close to Secretariat’s track record). I was devastated when she broke down in the Distaff but people forget that she was going toe to toe with Bayakoa, a damn good horse in her own right. That Go for Wand did all that as a 3yo filly was incredible.
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine |
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![]() I would also submit Lammtarra for consideration. Few know of him because he only ran in Europe and only ran four times. But consider this:
-Broke his maiden in October of his 2yo season -Didn’t run again for seven months then won the Epsom Derby in his first start as a 3yo (track record I believe) -Won the King George next -Won the Arc
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine |
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![]() Can't wrap my head around what the criteria is for being considered "underrated".
So far, based on the horses named, the only criteria I could come up with is the horse has to be considered a Top 100 Racehorses of all time... Affirmed 12 Ruffian 35 Go For Wand 72 Lady's Secret 76 Lammtarra 11 Wise Dan 81 |
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![]() Quote:
But look again at 1980...The Bid No one has ever had a better year!!!
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Arrogate is the best horse since The Bid, and The Bid was better than Secretariat!!!! |
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![]() Invasor.
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![]() Worth a discussion IMO…especially with nothing else going on he board.
Who do you got, Personal Ensign or Lady’s Secret? |
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![]() If we are talking about good horses that rarely make a Top 100 list:
Paradise Creek Manila Singspiel Kotashaan Fantastic Light Steinlen Formal Gold Forty Niner Chief's Crown Gulch Broad Brush Lost Code Snow Chief Flawlessly |
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![]() I like this list.
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB |
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![]() I was a big fan of Roses In May, winner of the Whitney and Dubai World Cup, and second in the Donn (Saint Liam) & Breeders Cup Classic (Ghostzapper).
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![]() Conquistador Cielo
Be Bullish Spooky Molder Storm Flag Flying Storm Cat Dubai Millennium Calibrachoa Discreet Cat Fu Peg Xtra Heat |
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![]() Dubai Millennium is one of the highest rated UK runners of all time (I think he's in Timeform's top ten & was #36 in a UK/Irish Top 100 I looked up).
Also, Fantastic Light is also rated a lot higher than I thought (was number 40 on the same UK/Irish list). I'll switch him out for Sahkee. |