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Old 06-29-2023, 10:03 PM
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Default Most underrated horse

I'm talking all-time. It seems that these days the world has to do "Mount Rushmore" and crap like that in every sport. But there have been some incredible horses that don't necessarily get mentioned with the all-time greats enough in my opinion.

I'm going with Affirmed. Man his 4-year-old season was incredible.
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Old 06-30-2023, 08:06 AM
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Old 06-30-2023, 11:10 AM
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he was a workhorse blue collar type

Saginaw
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Old 06-30-2023, 12:58 PM
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Personally I think Eclipse doesn’t get enough credit.
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Old 06-30-2023, 06:43 PM
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Wise Dan
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Old 07-01-2023, 06:37 AM
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Old 07-01-2023, 03:17 PM
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Another one I’ll throw out there: Lady’s Secret

Was Ruffian actually better than her?
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Old 07-01-2023, 07:07 PM
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Another one I’ll throw out there: Lady’s Secret

Was Ruffian actually better than her?
Seriously?
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Old 07-02-2023, 11:02 AM
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Go for Wand. I don’t think there are many horses that can be fast enough to run 7f in 1:21, come back just nine days later and run 10f in 2:00 4/5, then return a month later and go 9f in 1:45 4/5 (close to Secretariat’s track record). I was devastated when she broke down in the Distaff but people forget that she was going toe to toe with Bayakoa, a damn good horse in her own right. That Go for Wand did all that as a 3yo filly was incredible.
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Old 07-02-2023, 11:13 AM
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I would also submit Lammtarra for consideration. Few know of him because he only ran in Europe and only ran four times. But consider this:

-Broke his maiden in October of his 2yo season

-Didn’t run again for seven months then won the Epsom Derby in his first start as a 3yo (track record I believe)

-Won the King George next

-Won the Arc
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Old 07-02-2023, 12:14 PM
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Can't wrap my head around what the criteria is for being considered "underrated".

So far, based on the horses named, the only criteria I could come up with is the horse has to be considered a Top 100 Racehorses of all time...

Affirmed 12
Ruffian 35
Go For Wand 72
Lady's Secret 76
Lammtarra 11
Wise Dan 81
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Old 07-03-2023, 08:22 AM
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Go for Wand. I don’t think there are many horses that can be fast enough to run 7f in 1:21, come back just nine days later and run 10f in 2:00 4/5, then return a month later and go 9f in 1:45 4/5 (close to Secretariat’s track record). I was devastated when she broke down in the Distaff but people forget that she was going toe to toe with Bayakoa, a damn good horse in her own right. That Go for Wand did all that as a 3yo filly was incredible.
Loved her too.
But look again at 1980...The Bid
No one has ever had a better year!!!
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Old 07-03-2023, 10:17 AM
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Invasor.
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Old 07-03-2023, 03:02 PM
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Seriously?
Worth a discussion IMO…especially with nothing else going on he board.

Who do you got, Personal Ensign or Lady’s Secret?
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Old 07-03-2023, 05:22 PM
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If we are talking about good horses that rarely make a Top 100 list:

Paradise Creek
Manila
Singspiel
Kotashaan
Fantastic Light
Steinlen
Formal Gold
Forty Niner
Chief's Crown
Gulch
Broad Brush
Lost Code
Snow Chief
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Old 07-03-2023, 09:32 PM
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If we are talking about good horses that rarely make a Top 100 list:

Paradise Creek
Manila
Singspiel
Kotashaan
Fantastic Light
Steinlen
Formal Gold
Forty Niner
Chief's Crown
Gulch
Broad Brush
Lost Code
Snow Chief
Flawlessly
I like this list.
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Old 07-04-2023, 12:29 PM
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I was a big fan of Roses In May, winner of the Whitney and Dubai World Cup, and second in the Donn (Saint Liam) & Breeders Cup Classic (Ghostzapper).
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Old 07-04-2023, 01:59 PM
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If we are talking about good horses that rarely make a Top 100 list:

Paradise Creek
Manila
Singspiel
Kotashaan
Fantastic Light
Steinlen
Formal Gold
Forty Niner
Chief's Crown
Gulch
Broad Brush
Lost Code
Snow Chief
Flawlessly
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Old 07-04-2023, 07:41 PM
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Conquistador Cielo
Be Bullish
Spooky Molder
Storm Flag Flying
Storm Cat
Dubai Millennium
Calibrachoa
Discreet Cat
Fu Peg
Xtra Heat
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Old 07-04-2023, 08:41 PM
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Dubai Millennium is one of the highest rated UK runners of all time (I think he's in Timeform's top ten & was #36 in a UK/Irish Top 100 I looked up).

Also, Fantastic Light is also rated a lot higher than I thought (was number 40 on the same UK/Irish list).

I'll switch him out for Sahkee.
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