Keeneland returning to dirt

[Alan07]

rumored last weekend, now officially confirmed

http://www.keeneland.com/racing/keen...ain-race-track

[Gate Dancer]

Excellent news.............should be an interesting Fall meeting!!

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Alan07

rumored last weekend, now officially confirmed

http://www.keeneland.com/racing/keen...ain-race-track

Someone call AAA. The synthetic surface bandwagon has broken down.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Alan07

rumored last weekend, now officially confirmed

http://www.keeneland.com/racing/keen...ain-race-track

i hope they manage to install a fair surface, tho. a lot of people took issue with the previous dirt track.


poor pmayjr

[ateamstupid]

Awesome!

[pointman]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Someone call AAA. The synthetic surface bandwagon has broken down.

Originally Posted by Danzig

poor pmayjr

[OldDog]

Good news for Keeneland and for horseplayers. The Bluegrass can resume its status as a real Derby prep.

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i hope they manage to install a fair surface, tho. a lot of people took issue with the previous dirt track.


poor pmayjr

aren't you glad they finally cured the black plague of racing? You're full of S if you claim that you quit betting that track once they got a synth surface. You all are.

All I ever argued with the synth surfaces is that they can co-exist with dirt tracks, and that they provide very good betting opportunities. So ok... fine. It's dirt again. It's Keeneland. They'll still get top-quality fields... hopefully without the speed bias

Per Bloodhorse- Keeneland CEO BIll Thomason quote:
"We think it achieved every objective that we wanted with the exception that we hoped it would become the most prevalent racing surface in the United States and that everybody would have it," Thomason said of Polytrack. "For various reasons that has not happened. We regret that it didn't become the prevalent surface... But we also don't think we have to sacrifice the safety parts of it. We are going to be diligent in working toward the safety of the dirt track. We don't think those two are mutually exclusive."

Hopefully they're very proactive with the last part of that quote

[Benny]

It will be safe to go back in the water again now , as long as its not a new super highway with post 1 and 2 wiring all day.

They had changed the banking of the turns and length of stretch when poly was installed, wonder if that stays ???

[Left Bank]

Thank God! Now I wonder what Turfway will do. Maybe close down?

[pmayjr]

Yes... keep slowly eradicating the plague. Now that Del Mar and Keeneland went back to dirt, all we need to do is get Golden Gate, Arlington (because we all know the dirt racing at Hawthorne is sooo superior), Presque Isle (hey, we got Parx and Penn National, no need for that stupid place) and Turfway to close and we can bet those 5-horse fields again.

BTW, f$ck Canada. F$ck Woodbine. And most of all F4ck the damn Arabs for building that state of the art track in Dubai where... you know... it's really safe for horses but... I can't ever cash a ticket (because synth is the same as dirt, so why do I keep losing?) so Fck Sheik Mo for not running at Nad al Sheeba anymore

you guys must be so happy that Keeneland and Del Mar eradicated the plague, I'm sure you can end your betting boycotts now. Synth really messed up your ability to cash a ticket... yeah... that's it...

what excuse will you make up when you're still not cashing during Keeneland's fall meet?

I got it. It'll be something like this-

"He was winning all summer at Arlington. Why did he bounce so bad here?"

[ateamstupid]

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

Yes... keep slowly eradicating the plague. Now that Del Mar and Keeneland went back to dirt, all we need to do is get Golden Gate, Arlington (because we all know the dirt racing at Hawthorne is sooo superior), Presque Isle (hey, we got Parx and Penn National, no need for that stupid place) and Turfway to close and we can bet those 5-horse fields again.

BTW, f$ck Canada. F$ck Woodbine. And most of all F4ck the damn Arabs for building that state of the art track in Dubai where... you know... it's really safe for horses but... I can't ever cash a ticket (because synth is the same as dirt, so why do I keep losing?) so Fck Sheik Mo for not running at Nad al Sheeba anymore

you guys must be so happy that Keeneland and Del Mar eradicated the plague, I'm sure you can end your betting boycotts now. Synth really messed up your ability to cash a ticket... yeah... that's it...

what excuse will you make up when you're still not cashing during Keeneland's fall meet?

I got it. It'll be something like this-

"He was winning all summer at Arlington. Why did he bounce so bad here?"

Really?

Bad batch of meds today?

I did read today, luckily for you, that the Del Mar to dirt thing has hit snags and might not happen after all.

[pmayjr]

guys... the plague on horse racing has been eradicated... if... you know... breakdowns aren't a plague...

just my inability to cash a ticket on an independent 3rd surface is a plague. So I'm glad they care about me enough, the bettor.

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

you can end your boycott on all the tracks you know you've bet all along anyway

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Really?

Bad batch of meds today?

I did read today, luckily for you, that the Del Mar to dirt thing has hit snags and might not happen after all.

If that happens will you just wait for Santa Anita's fall meet to bet California again?

[pointman]

Careful guys, you don't want to discourage pmayjr from giving out all those longshot winners at Keeneland he finds due to the surface change before the races are run.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pointman

Careful guys, you don't want to discourage pmayjr from giving out all those longshot winners at Keeneland he finds due to the surface change before the races are run.

True. His KEE picks in the Selections forum are totally legendary.

[Pants II]

pmayjr nerd raged when new coke was shelved in favor of coke classic.

He also thinks Vince Vaughn movies are the best and that Will Ferrell's career has just begun to take off.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pmayjr

aren't you glad they finally cured the black plague of racing? You're full of S if you claim that you quit betting that track once they got a synth surface. You all are.

All I ever argued with the synth surfaces is that they can co-exist with dirt tracks, and that they provide very good betting opportunities. So ok... fine. It's dirt again. It's Keeneland. They'll still get top-quality fields... hopefully without the speed bias

Per Bloodhorse- Keeneland CEO BIll Thomason quote:
"We think it achieved every objective that we wanted with the exception that we hoped it would become the most prevalent racing surface in the United States and that everybody would have it," Thomason said of Polytrack. "For various reasons that has not happened. We regret that it didn't become the prevalent surface... But we also don't think we have to sacrifice the safety parts of it. We are going to be diligent in working toward the safety of the dirt track. We don't think those two are mutually exclusive."

Hopefully they're very proactive with the last part of that quote

they can't and won't co-exist. if they could, the tracks wouldn't be going back to tried and true. this was a ridiculous move, a panacea, a cure all that turned out to be snake oil. keeneland is right, they wanted it to be prevalent-since they were selling the crap. can't argue with that.
the remarks about new coke were spot on-this was 'better', but everyone likes classic better.