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Old 06-19-2011, 02:12 PM
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Blind Luck is awesome isn't she? I think every racing fan has to like her. She doesn't duck anyone (at least not in the female division), thanks to her connections, and always gives her all. She ships and runs on all sorts of surfaces. She ran a great race on Kentucky Derby Day or that friday that I felt was over looked in all the Derby Hoopla. In that race she went down to her face at the start and still won. Yesterday at Hollywood Park she beat a nice group of mares including Switch and St. Trinians (Both quality runners in my opinion)! She started the year with a few losses at Santa Anita over a fast track that really didn't compliment her come from behind style. But she still got up for second in those races!

I'm gushing over her! She is just a neat horse and a personal favorite. Looks like she will have a wonderful rivalry with Harve De Grace this year! I know that Harve De Grace is currently considered the better of the two mares but I think that Blind Luck is still a major threat. These two are the big rivalry that I am following in this 2011 racing year! Am I the only one whose really excited to see these two race each other again?
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Old 06-19-2011, 03:51 PM
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I know that Harve De Grace is currently considered the better of the two mares but I think that Blind Luck is still a major threat. These two are the big rivalry that I am following in this 2011 racing year! Am I the only one whose really excited to see these two race each other again?
I really enjoy following her as well. She never puts in a bad effort, and her connections aren't afraid to ship her around and run her. I look forward to her and Harve De Grace meeting again. I think Harve De Grace is the better horse, but I'm really hoping Blink Luck surprises me.
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Old 06-19-2011, 05:01 PM
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They are both good horses and its a fun rivalry.
Throw Awesome Maria into the mix and factor in the quality of the males in this country and I'm not sure why the trifecta of last year's Cotillion can't be the trifecta for this year's JCGC.
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Blind Luck is like a throw-back to the top class fillies and mares of seven or eight years ago.

And speaking of pretty cool throwbacks - I noticed a 2yo at HP today named Danger Ranger. There was a horse who dominated Calder in my younger days by that same name.
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Old 06-19-2011, 05:06 PM
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Reminds me a little of the late Pine Island, just a relentless closing kick almost regardless of trip.
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Old 06-19-2011, 05:09 PM
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I really enjoy following her as well. She never puts in a bad effort, and her connections aren't afraid to ship her around and run her. I look forward to her and Harve De Grace meeting again. I think Harve De Grace is the better horse, but I'm really hoping Blink Luck surprises me.
That's the biggest reason she's so enjoyable.
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Old 06-19-2011, 05:10 PM
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They are both good horses and its a fun rivalry.
Throw Awesome Maria into the mix and factor in the quality of the males in this country and I'm not sure why the trifecta of last year's Cotillion can't be the trifecta for this year's JCGC.
All three of them could be competitive in the Whitney as well.
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Old 06-19-2011, 06:28 PM
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All three of them could be competitive in the Whitney as well.
No they wouldn't.
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No they wouldn't.
I'd love to hear which older males other than Tizway they'd have to be afraid of.
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Old 06-19-2011, 06:53 PM
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I'd love to hear which older males other than Tizway they'd have to be afraid of.
Morning Line, Rail Trip, and Friend or Foe would be a few.
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Old 06-19-2011, 06:58 PM
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All those Candy horses, for starters.
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:00 PM
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Morning Line, Rail Trip, and Friend or Foe would be a few.
Morning Line is largely unproven at two turns and Rail Trip has one big dirt race in two years. Friend or Foe has a lot of upside, but also hasn't run a ton of fast races.

I see no reason why those three, especially Havre de Grace, can't compete in open Grade 1's this year, just like I didn't see (before she got hurt) why R Heat Lightning couldn't compete against males.
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:06 PM
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Morning Line, Rail Trip, and Friend or Foe would be a few.
That's a good start.

Havre de Grace is probably pretty good, though she was hardly flattered by yesterday's results ( her competition in the Apple Blossom was none too impressive ), but being that she isn't even contesting the toughest races of her sex, why would people hypothesize about her beating the best males in the country ? Awesome Maria has been pretty good this year, but I think people need to take a step back and look at the field once Unrivaled Belle got injured and Absinthe Minded stopped on the turn. I'm not knocking her, as she's really good, but no sane person would consider her race yesterday a remote threat to the three you mentioned ( plus Tizway....or even Sydney's Candy ). As for Blind Luck....who wouldn't root for her? Her connections do everything racing fans dream owners would do with a good horse. She travels and ducks no horse. However, even their ambitious plans don't include running her against males where she can't realistically be competitive.

Bounding Basque beat Life's Magic in the Brooklyn.
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:08 PM
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Morning Line is largely unproven at two turns and Rail Trip has one big dirt race in two years. Friend or Foe has a lot of upside, but also hasn't run a ton of fast races.

I see no reason why those three, especially Havre de Grace, can't compete in open Grade 1's this year, just like I didn't see (before she got hurt) why R Heat Lightning couldn't compete against males.
Morning Line is largely unproven at two turns?

Joey, seriously, when you say nonsense like that, nothing you say can be taken seriously. The Friend or Foe comment shows a similar lack of knowledge.

The second paragraph is just more confirmation.
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:20 PM
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Morning Line is largely unproven at two turns and Rail Trip has one big dirt race in two years. Friend or Foe has a lot of upside, but also hasn't run a ton of fast races.

I see no reason why those three, especially Havre de Grace, can't compete in open Grade 1's this year, just like I didn't see (before she got hurt) why R Heat Lightning couldn't compete against males.
Rail Trip has only run in two dirt races and the layoff after the JCGC makes it pretty clear he wasn't 100% in that race. Morning Line won the Pennsylvania Derby and fought tooth and nail from start to finish in the Donn. Those were two good performances.

Awesome Maria mopped up on soft competition at Gulfstream and won a watered down race yesterday. Blind Luck is terrific but in many ways is still on the comeback trail this year. Those two plus Havre de Grace stepping up to face males in what is shaping up as a pretty deep race is a tall order.

I'll settle for Blind Luck and Havre de Grace running against each other at 10fs at Delaware on July 16.
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:20 PM
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Havre de Grace is probably pretty good, though she was hardly flattered by yesterday's results ( her competition in the Apple Blossom was none too impressive ), but being that she isn't even contesting the toughest races of her sex, why would people hypothesize about her beating the best males in the country ?
Maybe if you would read a little more, you'd know that she is "halfway to horse of the year" ....

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Bounding Basque beat Life's Magic in the Brooklyn.
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:23 PM
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If Giant Oak can defeat Morning Line going 9f, is it really that unrealistic to think that one of the fillies might have a shot of doing the same?
I think any of the three mentioned would have been extremely competitive in the Foster yesterday, and (sad as it is) I'm not sure there's much of a guarantee that the races later in the year will be a whole lot better.
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:32 PM
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If Giant Oak can defeat Morning Line going 9f, is it really that unrealistic to think that one of the fillies might have a shot of doing the same?
I think any of the three mentioned would have been extremely competitive in the Foster yesterday, and (sad as it is) I'm not sure there's much of a guarantee that the races later in the year will be a whole lot better.
Isn't it important when ridiculing Morning LIne for losing to Giant Oak to consider the dynamics of the race in question?

As bad as the Foster was, it was really only a race to see which horses Mike Watchmaker overrated the most on his Watchmaker Watch.
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:34 PM
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Criticize a Zito horse at your own peril on here Joe. You should know better....Dialed In just finished up and didn't even come back blowing.
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:44 PM
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Isn't it important when ridiculing Morning LIne for losing to Giant Oak to consider the dynamics of the race in question?

As bad as the Foster was, it was really only a race to see which horses Mike Watchmaker overrated the most on his Watchmaker Watch.
Of course the dynamics are important, and I'm pretty sure I wasn't "ridiculing" Morning Line. I'm just not sure there are many older males running right now (him included) who you can count on to overcome unfavorable race dynamics to win a big race. If horses like Giant Oak and Pool Play can pick up the pieces and win big races against the top of this division, I'm not sure why the fillies can't.

Zenyatta was extremely competitive in her one try against the older male division last year, and I'm not convinced that she was much better than these three fillies or that this year's older male division is better than last year's.
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