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Old 12-15-2010, 11:03 AM
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Default Do you agree with Alan Shuback?

Two stories caught my attention this week:
This one,especially the last sentence,
http://www.drf.com/news/purse-cuts-2...reland-hardest
And this one,from the NYRA site:
http://www.nyra.com/aqueduct/stories/Dec112010b.shtml
I tend to agree with him,in that there is a need for more people in attendance at racetracks.It certainly won't hurt.What are your thoughts?
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Old 12-15-2010, 12:12 PM
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Without reading either story: it amazes me that Alan Shuback is paid to write about horse racing.
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Old 12-15-2010, 12:25 PM
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Without reading either story: it amazes me that Alan Shuback is paid to write about horse racing.
But his pre-BC analysis in the DRF each year is flawless. Has he picked a winner in the BC Turf ever?

Behkabad was a monster!
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Old 12-15-2010, 08:00 PM
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Two stories caught my attention this week:
This one,especially the last sentence,
http://www.drf.com/news/purse-cuts-2...reland-hardest
And this one,from the NYRA site:
http://www.nyra.com/aqueduct/stories/Dec112010b.shtml
I tend to agree with him,in that there is a need for more people in attendance at racetracks.It certainly won't hurt.What are your thoughts?
Without an increase in live bodies in seats at racetracks around the nation, our problems will continue.

agree.
thats why i go as much as possible.
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Old 12-16-2010, 11:57 AM
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In a related story, Full Tilt Poker and Pokerstars are attempting to increase the number of live bodies in their seats.
I know you were just being cute, but both of those sites are in BIG trouble.
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Old 12-16-2010, 12:52 PM
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I know you were just being cute, but both of those sites are in BIG trouble.
Why is that ?? Link?
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Old 12-16-2010, 02:54 PM
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Why is that ?? Link?
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN...4?feedType=RSS

I'm not sure how likely it is to pass, but those sites would be dead.
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Old 12-16-2010, 08:34 PM
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I agree with you 100%. . . The word "cute" probably sounded like more of a slight than it was meant to. Us young'ns have to stick together.
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Old 12-16-2010, 09:07 PM
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http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN...4?feedType=RSS

I'm not sure how likely it is to pass, but those sites would be dead.
no they wouldn't. i'll continue to play offshore where reporting for tax purposes is up to the player. as would any sensible player.

they'll do just fine under this bill.
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Old 12-16-2010, 09:16 PM
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no they wouldn't. i'll continue to play offshore where reporting for tax purposes is up to the player. as would any sensible player.

they'll do just fine under this bill.
As I understand it, FT, PS etc. will be completely shut out to the U.S. market. After the dark period is over, only sites connected to casinos will be allowed to open up new sites.
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Old 12-17-2010, 04:25 PM
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As I understand it, FT, PS etc. will be completely shut out to the U.S. market. After the dark period is over, only sites connected to casinos will be allowed to open up new sites.
how would that be accomplished? after the 2006 "ban" on internet gambling one publically held company (party poker) restricted access to u.s. residents.

everyone who didn't already have one opened new accounts at full tilt, ultimate bet, poker stars, or one of a few hundred lesser known privately held sites.

i have a hard time imaginging all the sites that already accept u.s. customers in violation of current u.s. law suddenly giving up a large part of their customer base because of a new law.
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Old 12-17-2010, 04:32 PM
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I don't agree with Alan Shuback, I agree with Alan Speegish.
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Old 12-17-2010, 04:45 PM
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how would that be accomplished? after the 2006 "ban" on internet gambling one publically held company (party poker) restricted access to u.s. residents.

everyone who didn't already have one opened new accounts at full tilt, ultimate bet, poker stars, or one of a few hundred lesser known privately held sites.

i have a hard time imaginging all the sites that already accept u.s. customers in violation of current u.s. law suddenly giving up a large part of their customer base because of a new law.
They limit U.S. players' abilities to get money in an out of their accounts. Duh. Some of that has already happened.
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:08 PM
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They limit U.S. players' abilities to get money in an out of their accounts. Duh. Some of that has already happened.
it really hasn't been much of a problem at full tilt. I made a withdrawal in september and they did a direct deposit to my checking account. the time before that they sent a check. i've had no problems funding the account when needed.
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Old 12-17-2010, 05:49 PM
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it really hasn't been much of a problem at full tilt. I made a withdrawal in september and they did a direct deposit to my checking account. the time before that they sent a check. i've had no problems funding the account when needed.
I've done bank transfers and wires, but more and more banks have begun to limit transactions. . . The general consensus within the poker community is that this legislation is a definite concern for the short term.
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Old 12-17-2010, 08:13 PM
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Nevermind. . . I think the bill got killed.
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Old 12-17-2010, 09:23 PM
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I don't agree with Alan Shuback, I agree with Alan Speegish.
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