Blame saved the historic integrity of the sport

DaTruth · #1 11-06-2010, 06:35 PM

We can now finally put the rest the ridiculous notion that Zenyatta is the greatest American-raced thoroughbred ever.

Pedigree Ann · #2 11-06-2010, 06:45 PM

There was a lot of hyperbole being thrown around. Her connections denied her the chance to prove her greatness by emphasizing the 'wins in a row', when she wasn't facing the toughest competition. They gambled a repeat win in the Classic would overshadow a year of bloodless races and they lost.

ateamstupid · #3 11-06-2010, 06:48 PM

Somehow Moss and Bailey still came away with the impression that she's easily the best female racehorse of all time. Even if she had run last they would've found a way to bestow some other completely undeserved crown on her head.

It's unfair to her. She's a fantastic racehorse. She's not the best anything of all-time. That's nothing to be ashamed of.

TitanSooner · #4 11-06-2010, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth

We can now finally put the rest the ridiculous notion that Zenyatta is the greatest American-raced thoroughbred ever.

Hate more

The Indomitable DrugS · #5 11-06-2010, 06:50 PM

Uncle Mo saved the history and integrity of the sport.

goingtothewhip · #6 11-06-2010, 06:54 PM

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Uncle Mo saved the history and integrity of the sport.

I think Dakota Phone did.
Or did that race fall apart too?

horseofcourse · #7 11-06-2010, 07:07 PM

Blame won a horse race today. Nothing more, nothing less. He saved the integrity of nothing. He beat the best synthetics race horse of all time who is also a very good dirt race horse as she pretty much proved today.

Personally I think she's just as good a race horse at 19 for 20 with this head loss as she would be if she were 20 for 20 with a head win today.

Last year was only because she ran on her home track as the nay sayers bombarded everyone with. She ran on blame's home track today and very nearly won it. She didn't. Blame should be HOY despite the lamentations of Shirrefs as she didn't run any other big dirt races or the Pacific Classic or HGC at home. She had a much better case last year than this year, so I just hope no one caves and votes her HOY. Historically, I think she stands up ok.

eajinabi · #8 11-06-2010, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Blame won a horse race today. Nothing more, nothing less. He saved the integrity of nothing. He beat the best synthetics race horse of all time who is also a very good dirt race horse as she pretty much proved today.

Personally I think she's just as good a race horse at 19 for 20 with this head loss as she would be if she were 20 for 20 with a head win today.

Last year was only because she ran on her home track as the nay sayers bombarded everyone with. She ran on blame's home track today and very nearly won it. She didn't. Blame should be HOY despite the lamentations of Shirrefs as she didn't run any other big dirt races or the Pacific Classic or HGC at home. She had a much better case last year than this year, so I just hope no one caves and votes her HOY. Historically, I think she stands up ok.

Well Said!!

RockHardTen1985 · #9 11-06-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Somehow Moss and Bailey still came away with the impression that she's easily the best female racehorse of all time. Even if she had run last they would've found a way to bestow some other completely undeserved crown on her head.

It's unfair to her. She's a fantastic racehorse. She's not the best anything of all-time. That's nothing to be ashamed of.

Moss said it 3x, at least. Shes the best female racehorse EVER.

The Indomitable DrugS · #10 11-06-2010, 07:16 PM

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I think Dakota Phone did.
Or did that race fall apart too?

They went 22 and change and 44 and change ... Rosario taking Dakota Phone 13 lengths off of that pace - and having him positioned six full lengths behind the next to last horse ... that helped him.

Danzig · #11 11-06-2010, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Somehow Moss and Bailey still came away with the impression that she's easily the best female racehorse of all time. Even if she had run last they would've found a way to bestow some other completely undeserved crown on her head.

It's unfair to her. She's a fantastic racehorse. She's not the best anything of all-time. That's nothing to be ashamed of.

i agree on all points.

horseofcourse · #12 11-06-2010, 07:19 PM

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She's not the best anything of all-time. That's nothing to be ashamed of.

you seriously wouldn't call her the best synthetics horse of all time?? who would take that honor if not her? Granted it's a silly thing and meaningless, but seriously.

ateamstupid · #13 11-06-2010, 07:20 PM

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you seriously wouldn't call her the best synthetics horse of all time?? who would take that honor if not her? Granted it's a silly thing and meaningless, but seriously.

go with your last thought.

horseofcourse · #14 11-06-2010, 07:24 PM

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go with your last thought.

Do you have the ability to answer my question you smarter man than me. (I'm a cancer patient, don't go your hero on me!)

ateamstupid · #15 11-06-2010, 07:26 PM

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Do you have the ability to answer my question you smarter man than me. (I'm a cancer patient, don't go your hero on me!)

Yes, she's the best synthetic horse ever. No, no one should care about that.

slotdirt · #16 11-06-2010, 07:28 PM

Did someone just ask if the dirt mile fell apart? It doesn't take Andy Serling to figure out that when horses go the same time for a half that one typically sees going one turn at CT that it might help those running off the pace.

RockHardTen1985 · #17 11-06-2010, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

They went 22 and change and 44 and change ... Rosario taking Dakota Phone 13 lengths off of that pace - and having him positioned six full lengths behind the next to last horse ... that helped him.

Morning Line ran huge in that race. Look out next year, might be the class of the East Coast handicap division.

goingtothewhip · #18 11-06-2010, 07:41 PM

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Did someone just ask if the dirt mile fell apart? It doesn't take Andy Serling to figure out that when horses go the same time for a half that one typically sees going one turn at CT that it might help those running off the pace.

I wish i could just go by numbers too. Colors preferably.

DaTruth · #19 11-06-2010, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

There was a lot of hyperbole being thrown around. Her connections denied her the chance to prove her greatness by emphasizing the 'wins in a row', when she wasn't facing the toughest competition. They gambled a repeat win in the Classic would overshadow a year of bloodless races and they lost.

I wished they had tried her on turf at least once.

DaTruth · #20 11-06-2010, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Uncle Mo saved the history and integrity of the sport.

He saved the Cup from being a total joke this year.