State of racing in 5 years

Split Rock · #1 10-12-2010, 03:39 PM

Just curious, does anyone think racing will be vastly different in 5 or 10 years? How many middle to low end tracks will go away?

In my opinion, I think you will see many tracks disapear in the next decade, especially those without casino funding.

Or is there another solution that gets this game viable again?

randallscott35 · #2 10-12-2010, 03:46 PM

Oh no.

RockHardTen1985 · #3 10-12-2010, 03:46 PM

Im hoping people like Randall are out.

randallscott35 · #4 10-12-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im hoping people like Randall are out.

Thanks...Everyone on this board wants racing to succeed. Me being gone means less handle, not more. Racing will always be here, but the initial question is a good one....For one thing there are fewer horses being born which down the line will have a major effect.

RockHardTen1985 · #5 10-12-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Thanks...Everyone on this board wants racing to succeed. Me being gone means less handle, not more. Racing will always be here, but the initial question is a good one....For one thing there are fewer horses being born which down the line will have a major effect.

If the intial question was good, why did you not respond like this then? If so, I would have had nothing to say.

randallscott35 · #6 10-12-2010, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

If the intial question was good, why did you not respond like this then? If so, I would have had nothing to say.

Fair enough.

Less racing. Less tracks. Less purses...My guess just on general economic basis+horse decrease.

RockHardTen1985 · #7 10-12-2010, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Fair enough.

Less racing. Less tracks. Less purses...My guess just on general economic basis+horse decrease.

I like what Monmouth did, I know there is a lot to it and its not easy to just change, but I think thats the only way for NY. Look at the holiday card yesterday, it was HORRIBLE. 3, MAYBE 4 DAYS A WEEK MAX, is the way to go.

randallscott35 · #8 10-12-2010, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I like what Monmouth did, I know there is a lot to it and its not easy to just change, but I think thats the only way for NY. Look at the holiday card yesterday, it was HORRIBLE. 3, MAYBE 4 DAYS A WEEK MAX, is the way to go.

Yes and I wholeheartedly supported Monmouth....but those on this board who contend that they could only do it due to casino help were 100% correct. That is going away. And fast.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201..._gambling.html

RockHardTen1985 · #9 10-12-2010, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Yes and I wholeheartedly supported Monmouth....but those on this board who contend that they could only do it due to casino help were 100% correct. That is going away. And fast.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201..._gambling.html

I wont pretend to understand the legal part of it all, but why cant NY change? Will they ever?

randallscott35 · #10 10-12-2010, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I wont pretend to understand the legal part of it all, but why cant NY change? Will they ever?

From what I can gather, they can change but they are hamstrung on a state level at least in terms of racing days...Others can comment further on this.

Indian Charlie · #11 10-12-2010, 04:06 PM

Make the two Randy Mosses co Racing Czars.

RockHardTen1985 · #12 10-12-2010, 04:07 PM

How about just some in general racing questions. BC has 50 cent pick 3's and 4's, what are signers on a 50 cent level? Should all my bets be made as 50 cent base, even if meant to be like 2$ or more, just punch it multiple times?

randallscott35 · #13 10-12-2010, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

How about just some in general racing questions. BC has 50 cent pick 3's and 4's, what are signers on a 50 cent level? Should all my bets be made as 50 cent base, even if meant to be like 2$ or more, just punch it multiple times?

Oh the tax stuff makes me crazy, I agree. It is just silly.

RockHardTen1985 · #14 10-12-2010, 04:09 PM

What about the question?

MISTERGEE · #15 10-12-2010, 05:10 PM

I would always punch the lower ticket amount in case of a signer

RockHardTen1985 · #16 10-12-2010, 05:11 PM

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I would always punch the lower ticket amount in case of a signer

Ok, but what is the law on the 50 cent wagers?

eajinabi · #17 10-12-2010, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Ok, but what is the law on the 50 cent wagers?

winnings of $600.00 USD or more are taxed when the winnings are also at least 300 times the original wager

2Hot4TV · #18 10-12-2010, 07:05 PM

The state of racing in 5 years?

about the same with the same trend of higher take outs and decreacing on track attendence.

5 horse races in California will be the norm.

RockHardTen1985 · #19 10-12-2010, 07:25 PM

I think Chuck will have at least 4, if not 5 Champions....

Travis Stone · #20 10-12-2010, 09:02 PM

NY doesn't have to change. They handle the most out of any racetrack out there... their business is the strongest of all, particularly with Saratoga in the mix. Aqueduct in the winter for goodness sake out-handles most racetracks in the summer.

Furthermore, when NYRA runs, the industry receives a general bump in the overall marketplace... so them not running would pinch the marketplace as an industry. NYRA is not pinched by having too many races. They're the victims of the larger problems of lack of quality horses and what's left of the quality horses getting shoved into one shed row, forcing those trainers to spread them out.

Contraction in terms of races starts with tracks stretching-out their meets, barely making enough in terms of handle/field size/revenue, and struggling to get by as is. NYRA's not struggling in any sense of those.