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Old 12-14-2009, 08:20 AM
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WASHINGTON — US President Barack Obama, in remarks aired late Sunday, awarded himself a B plus for his first 11 months in office, stressing in an interview with talk show queen Oprah Winfrey that there was still much to be done.

"A good solid B plus," Obama said during an hour-long, intimate soft-focus ABC network Christmas at the White House special, when Winfrey asked what grade he would give himself.

Explaining why he wouldn't give himself top marks, the president said his administration had "inherited the biggest set of challenges of any president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt" which they were still working on.

He had earned good points for helping to stabilize the economy, setting a path out of Iraq and restoring America's international image, but the job was not yet finished.

"B plus because of the things that are undone. Health care is not yet signed. If I get health care passed, we tip into A minus," Obama said, his hair visibly grayer than when he took office on January 20.

Winfrey was given an inside tour of the White House by First Lady Michelle Obama, wearing a knee-skimming, long-sleeved simple plum dress.

They inspected the decorations and trees adorning every nook and cranny of the nation's most exclusive address, and which have taken most of the year to plan.

Pride of place went to a huge Christmas tree in the Blue Room hung with more than 650 baubles collected from around the White House closets and then sent around the country for people to decorate by hand with local scenes.

And there was also the 350-pound (160-kilo) gingerbread White House in the dining room, smothered in white chocolate with a model of Bo, the family dog, sitting by the steps.

Michelle Obama acknowledged that Portuguese waterhound Bo, who showed Oprah that he can "High-five" with his paw, would have his own stocking hanging up for Santa.

"Santa loves Bo too," the first lady exclaimed, as she revealed officially that the family would be spending the Christmas holidays in Hawaii where the president spent much of his childhood.

Obama said that if he had a seasonal wish it was: "I want the American people to feel confident that our future is gonna be bright.

"The 21st century will be as much the American century as the 20th century, as long as we maintain our sense of unity, but also our sense of hard work and determination," the president added.

Sometimes holding Winfrey's hand or putting his arm around her shoulder, the president said that visits to the White House by ordinary Americans were events that he cherished the most. He recalled one such visit by the mother and father of a fallen soldier.

"Those kinds of moments are the ones that you remember, partly because you're seeing the place through their eyes," he added.

"When they come here, this is their house. I'm the renter. I'm the borrower. This is the people's house, and one of the things that Michelle and I have both been trying to do is to make sure that we open this place up."

Pointing to the Resolute desk -- a 19th century gift from Queen Victoria built from timbers of the British frigate HMS Resolute, Obama noted this is where he usually signs letters to families of US soldiers who died in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

"When you're sitting there signing it, you feel the weight of what you're doing," he said.
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Old 12-14-2009, 08:31 AM
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Pointing to the Resolute desk -- a 19th century gift from Queen Victoria built from timbers of the British frigate HMS Resolute, Obama noted this is where he usually signs letters to families of US soldiers who died in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

"When you're sitting there signing it, you feel the weight of what you're doing," he said.



I was watching a show on the History channel just yesterday about the white House and this desk.. Was interesting to hear that it was also raised 2 inches (still is) for when Regan took office.

As far as Obama... He needs to re-take the test.
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Old 12-14-2009, 09:25 AM
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i'd give him a B + only if there is a huge curve for the test.

President Obama is the kind of guy to score a 60 on a test and curve it to be a B +.

I mean, nothing is ever his fault so how could he get a lower grade?
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Old 12-14-2009, 09:27 AM
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So far he's an F
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Old 12-14-2009, 09:31 AM
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even a cave man can do it..
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Old 12-14-2009, 09:33 AM
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where was the teleprompter?
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Old 12-14-2009, 09:37 AM
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F.ucking academic douchebag.
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Old 12-14-2009, 03:53 PM
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So far he's an F

Dont you mean I for Idiot


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M for moron?
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Old 12-14-2009, 05:51 PM
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Why pander to conservatives as much as Obama does when they're just going to sh!t on you no matter what?

Pull a Bush and do everything you can to annoy them.

And in other news ... the Oakland press again asked Jamarcus Russell to evaluate his performance ... and he again responded "I played just fine"
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:31 PM
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Why pander to conservatives as much as Obama does when they're just going to sh!t on you no matter what?

Pull a Bush and do everything you can to annoy them.

And in other news ... the Oakland press again asked Jamarcus Russell to evaluate his performance ... and he again responded "I played just fine"
Obama is a better President than JaMarcus is QB. Of course that isnt really saying much...
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Old 12-15-2009, 03:45 PM
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Obama is a better President than JaMarcus is QB. Of course that isnt really saying much...

Well I dont know...they both "air it out" pretty well
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Old 12-15-2009, 06:47 PM
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So far he's an F
I think I'll go a little easier on him. I'll give him a D.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:17 PM
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I give him a B S .
Make that a B S +.
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Seriously, if it only takes 40% to block him, then he's at the mercy of that 40%. That's a-s-s backwards, and it's just one of the reasons nothing gets done(you don't want him to get anything done..not really.) From this point on, it will be damn near impossible for either party to pass anything at all controversial. You're gunna get blocked by that 40%. This goes both ways. Yes, the senate is a highly biased situation that favors people in the smallest populated states. That's always gunna favor Conservatives. That being said, 40% will always be found to block the next Conservative that comes in. You've blocked, and then accused someone of doing nothing. That's very easy to do. Wait, and you'll see you'll get the same from now on. The Government will now do nothing of any value(to either side.) You thought we had a stupid Government before, but just wait. It will get worse. It has gotten worse. We had an election, and the majority voted for a man who was for changing our medical system in a big way. See, that simple majority is just fine n' dandy when you want to stop people from getting married etc. However, when you don't want something done, then you're all for a 40% minority nullifying the will of the majority that voted for President. It's actually much less than 40%, because it's a pool that has South Carolina represented with the same weight as New York. To a lot of people, this is indeed the issue that caused them to vote. What good is an election if your gunna need 60% of the senate? How often are 60 senators gunna agree? When you get your boy back in there you're gunna get a big surprise. Block Everything. You've set the precedent. Nobody can lead now, and nobody will. Oh, sure, you're gunna get your people voted in. Most Americans are too dumb to figure out this guy is being stopped by a 40% minority in just one leg of the Government. They won't comprehend it. You're get your Repubs in, but so what? You're gunna get blocked from here on in, too. You know those people with the reflexive comment about both parties being the same? Now, they are gunna be exactly right, because the results will be damn close. Do you know how watered down all the bills are now gunna have to be? To get 60 out of 100 Senators? They have just made it very attractive to vote for 3rd party candidates. Might just as well do that. Danzig may finally get someone running that she'd like to vote for. They don't realize how stupid a thing they've done. We're never going back. 60% OF THE VOTES FROM NOW ON. See how ya like it. Won't get anything done at all (neither party.) Absolute gridlock. Congrats. Get ready to give out a lot of F grades to Presidents that are handcuffed buy 40% of the Senators. I'll tell ya one thing, for sure. If I get terminal cancer, I'm going to Connecticut for my treatment. HOLE-istic treatment.

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Seriously, if it only takes 40% to block him, then he's at the mercy of that 40%. That's a-s-s backwards, and it's just one of the reasons nothing gets done(you don't want him to get anything done..not really.) From this point on, it will be damn near impossible for either party to pass anything at all controversial. You're gunna get blocked by that 40%. This goes both ways. Yes, the senate is a highly biased situation that favors people in the smallest populated states. That's always gunna favor Conservatives. That being said, 40% will always be found to block the next Conservative that comes in. You've blocked, and then accused someone of doing nothing. That's very easy to do. Wait, and you'll see you'll get the same from now on. The Government will now do nothing of any value(to either side.) You thought we had a stupid Government before, but just wait. It will get worse. It has gotten worse. We had an election, and the majority voted for a man who was for changing our medical system in a big way. See, that simple majority is just fine n' dandy when you want to stop people from getting married etc. However, when you don't want something done, then you're all for a 40% minority nullifying the will of the majority that voted for President. It's actually much less than 40%, because it's a pool that has South Carolina represented with the same weight as New York. To a lot of people, this is indeed the issue that caused them to vote. What good is an election if your gunna need 60% of the senate? How often are 60 senators gunna agree? When you get your boy back in there you're gunna get a big surprise. Block Everything. You've set the precedent. Nobody can lead now, and nobody will. Oh, sure, you're gunna get your people voted in. Most Americans are too dumb to figure out this guy is being stopped by a 40% minority in just one leg of the Government. They won't comprehend it. You're get your Repubs in, but so what? You're gunna get blocked from here on in, too. You know those people with the reflexive comment about both parties being the same? Now, they are gunna be exactly right, because the results will be damn close. Do you know how watered down all the bills are now gunna have to be? To get 60 out of 100 Senators? They have just made it very attractive to vote for 3rd party candidates. Might just as well do that. Danzig may finally get someone running that she'd like to vote for. They don't realize how stupid a thing they've done. We're never going back. 60% OF THE VOTES FROM NOW ON. See how ya like it. Won't get anything done at all (neither party.) Absolute gridlock. Congrats. Get ready to give out a lot of F grades to Presidents that are handcuffed buy 40% of the Senators. I'll tell ya one thing, for sure. If I get terminal cancer, I'm going to Connecticut for my treatment. HOLE-istic treatment.

makes you wonder how we've ever managed to get anything accomplished. on the other hand, it allows all the senators to have a say, rather than just one party. it also encourages compromise and agreement between both parties.
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Old 12-16-2009, 08:16 AM
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makes you wonder how we've ever managed to get anything accomplished. on the other hand, it allows all the senators to have a say, rather than just one party. it also encourages compromise and agreement between both parties.

.....wow....compromise and agreement....I kinda like that.....
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...ctions_opinion


Democrats ridiculed Mr. Bush as "the most fiscally irresponsible President in history," but then they saw him and raised. They took an $800 billion deficit and made it $1.4 trillion in 2009 and perhaps that high again in 2010. In 10 months they have approved more than $1 trillion in spending that has saved union public jobs but has done little to assist private job creation. Still to come is the multitrillion-dollar health bill and another $100 billion to $200 billion "jobs" bill.

Our concern is that the Administration and Congress view this debt as a way to force a permanently higher tax base for decades to come. The liberal grand strategy is to use their accidentally large majorities this year to pass new entitlements that start small but will explode in future years. U.S. creditors will then demand higher taxes—taking income taxes back to their pre-Reagan rates and adding a value-added tax too. This would expand federal spending as a share of GDP to as much as 30% from the pre-crisis 20%


"Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren," Senator Barack Obama said during the 2006 debt-ceiling debate. "America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better." That was $2 trillion ago, when someone else was President
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Democrats ridiculed Mr. Bush as "the most fiscally irresponsible President in history," but then they saw him and raised. They took an $800 billion deficit and made it $1.4 trillion in 2009 and perhaps that high again in 2010. In 10 months they have approved more than $1 trillion in spending that has saved union public jobs but has done little to assist private job creation. Still to come is the multitrillion-dollar health bill and another $100 billion to $200 billion "jobs" bill.

Our concern is that the Administration and Congress view this debt as a way to force a permanently higher tax base for decades to come. The liberal grand strategy is to use their accidentally large majorities this year to pass new entitlements that start small but will explode in future years. U.S. creditors will then demand higher taxes—taking income taxes back to their pre-Reagan rates and adding a value-added tax too. This would expand federal spending as a share of GDP to as much as 30% from the pre-crisis 20%


"Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren," Senator Barack Obama said during the 2006 debt-ceiling debate. "America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better." That was $2 trillion ago, when someone else was President

Um Obama has been fiscally conservative and hasnt spent a dime and everything that has to do with the debt is all because of Bush and republicans. Cause Democrats do not like social programs. Get it right. Riot taught us that already.
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Um Obama has been fiscally conservative and hasnt spent a dime and everything that has to do with the debt is all because of Bush and republicans. Cause Democrats do not like social programs. Get it right. Riot taught us that already.
i have been properly chastised, thank you.
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Old 12-16-2009, 01:38 PM
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makes you wonder how we've ever managed to get anything accomplished. on the other hand, it allows all the senators to have a say, rather than just one party. it also encourages compromise and agreement between both parties.

They had more self-discipline about using the filabuster. Now, that they've lost that self-discipline, virtually nothing will get through. That's what you'll see. They wanted to make him look bad, but the truth is that virtually no President would be able to get tough stuff through if they had to get 60 out of 100 votes. What % (of Americans that voted) voted for Obama in 2008? It wasn't 60%. The senate is biased towards lowly populated states. In reality, this means you're really asking him to get a minimum of about 65%(it would be 60% if the senate was proportional to the population of the states.) Well he didn't even get 55% of the raw vote (in a one person- one vote nation-wide election.) What I'm saying is that you're forcing him to get at least a 10% higher margin of senators than he got from the voting Americans. How can that system ever get anything done? It can't. It would be easier for a Republican to pass this hurdle(because it's rigged in favor of the little Conservative voting states.) It's still a tough task. That's why the opposing party usually doesn't invoke filabuster (they know it will result in a Government standstill.) Now that they've crossed this dangerous line, what should result is a splintering of the 2 party system. See, many Dems avoid voting for Independents because they want the power that 50% would give them. That's gone now. I guarantee you that. This requirement of 60% isn't going away. Not after you stopped something that a President had in his platform when elected. Oh no. You can't go back. It's like burnt skin. You can't really fix it. If only 40% can stop anything, then there is no reason to vote for a particular party. This is why you read where people say the 2 parties are the same. Their views are nowhere close to being the same, but this filibuster crap results in their results being ABOUT THE SAME. This is the reason this GOV'T doesn't work. There will virtually always be 40% of senators against something being done. We aren't allowing candidates to do what they promise. As long as it only takes 40%, the majority of what some candidate promises to do (on the campaign trail) simply can't be done. How could it? It's a dog sht system, and you're getting the just results(puke.)
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