Guillot Suspended

randallscott35 · #1 10-28-2009, 01:21 PM

Doesn't know how "it" got there.

http://drf.com/news/article/108456.html

tector · #2 10-28-2009, 01:48 PM

Maybe the trenbolone fairy visited.

freddymo · #3 10-28-2009, 01:49 PM

Always sucks when the masking agent doesnt work

Cannon Shell · #4 10-28-2009, 01:51 PM

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Always sucks when the masking agent doesnt work

Masking agents are pretty much not valid anymore

10 pnt move up · #5 10-28-2009, 01:53 PM

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Masking agents are pretty much not valid anymore

freddymo · #6 10-28-2009, 01:54 PM

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Masking agents are pretty much not valid anymore

Well trust me the folks are hard at work looking to find another one..

freddymo · #7 10-28-2009, 01:54 PM

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Maybe the trenbolone fairy visited.

Is she hot?

Cannon Shell · #8 10-28-2009, 01:55 PM

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I guess you'd rather stay in the dark over the reality of the situation. Try paceadvantage, they specialize in conspiracy theories over there.

Cannon Shell · #9 10-28-2009, 01:57 PM

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Well trust me the folks are hard at work looking to find another one..

Different world freddy. Masking agents arent needed when no test exists for the real problems.

freddymo · #10 10-28-2009, 01:59 PM

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I guess you'd rather stay in the dark over the reality of the situation. Try paceadvantage, they specialize in conspiracy theories over there.

The point is not IF masking agents are around..Frankly maybe the years past ones are null and void and perhaps there is a new one you don't know about.. I realize the protein testing is suppose to be mask proof but cheaters are always ahead of the curve and hence could have found the new holy grail..It's the point that folks are cheating like crazy still..

freddymo · #11 10-28-2009, 02:00 PM

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Different world freddy. Masking agents arent needed when no test exists for the real problems.

What's the real problem..Crappy horses..lol

10 pnt move up · #12 10-28-2009, 02:06 PM

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What's the real problem..Crappy horses..lol

crappy trainers in reality

VOL JACK · #13 10-28-2009, 02:12 PM

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crappy trainers in reality

Has there ever been an Owner in the history of this sport that has gotten so little for return on investment?
Moreno has spent millions upon millions and has gotten much more than a sniff of a good horse.
I guess when you have Guillot and The Sarge running the operation, those are the results you get.

10 pnt move up · #14 10-28-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Has there ever been an Owner in the history of this sport that has gotten so little for return on investment?
Moreno has spent millions upon millions and has gotten much more than a sniff of a good horse.
I guess when you have Guillot and The Sarge running the operation, those are the results you get.

I just no comment on Guillot, though I could make many. (and they aint conspiracy theories either as CS suggested)

Cannon Shell · #15 10-28-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

The point is not IF masking agents are around..Frankly maybe the years past ones are null and void and perhaps there is a new one you don't know about.. I realize the protein testing is suppose to be mask proof but cheaters are always ahead of the curve and hence could have found the new holy grail..It's the point that folks are cheating like crazy still..

masking agents are so 1980's. The new frontier is gene doping. Not related to dopes like some that post here.

randallscott35 · #16 10-28-2009, 02:19 PM

Chuck what logical reason would a horse test positive for this?

Cannon Shell · #17 10-28-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Has there ever been an Owner in the history of this sport that has gotten so little for return on investment?
Moreno has spent millions upon millions and has gotten much more than a sniff of a good horse.
I guess when you have Guillot and The Sarge running the operation, those are the results you get.

B Wayne Hughes and G Watts Humphrey have been around for a long time without a whole lot of big time success.

Cannon Shell · #18 10-28-2009, 02:20 PM

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Chuck what logical reason would a horse test positive for this?

They gave it to her.

randallscott35 · #19 10-28-2009, 02:21 PM

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They gave it to her.

Funny that's what I thought as well.

freddymo · #20 10-28-2009, 02:22 PM

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masking agents are so 1980's. The new frontier is gene doping. Not related to dopes like some that post here.

Ok were do we get some.. DrugS and I have a pig Pa bred that if she could run a 55bsf friday she could win a 100k state bred stake.. Count me in for gene doping..lol