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Old 10-11-2009, 06:01 PM
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Default Keenland/First 3 days

Certainly hasn't been a chalk lovers delight.
The average exacta payoff for the first 30 races of the meet is a unreal $176.32
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Old 10-11-2009, 06:04 PM
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Certainly hasn't been a chalk lovers delight.
The average exacta payoff for the first 30 races of the meet is a unreal $176.32

Seems pretty random to me....nice if your living the future but otherwise very very difficult.
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Old 10-11-2009, 10:29 PM
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Some horse that looks impossible on paper seems to hit the board in almost every race it seems.
Spreading like crazy in exoctics is rewarded.
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Old 10-12-2009, 01:25 AM
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I certainly think you see more stupidity from the betting public on synthetic tracks than with anything else.

I love betting early season 2yo races because I have a huge edge over everyone else with them for a wide variety of reasons ... but the main thing is that the public does a poor job with those type of races.

If you look at synthetic track racing ... I've had an outstanding record with it even though I don't focus on it.

* 2 straight years I've shown a flat bet profit at a 100 day meet picking every PID race a day in advance - and I bet with great success there this year.

* I've done very well in any type of handicapping contest I've been part of that involves a Syn track.

* I had one of my biggest scores of the year in the Blue Grass this year.

But basically ... none of that is about what I'm doing right .. it's about what the betting public seems to be doing wrong.

Look at Swift Temper's lifetime record on turf and syn ...



Shouldn't you have to be able to atleast run a 50 Beyer one time before they make you post time favorite in a Grade 1 stake?

I'm not so sure the betting public, in general, doesn't have a better handle on a field of 2yo debuters going 5fs in May ... than they do on basically any Syn track race.
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Old 10-12-2009, 05:40 AM
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THorgraph sheets seem to do a pretty Good Job on Syn Surfaces. I do use them On Occasion but you can look at them for free the the day after which I do Quite often especially following our own Horses.

Couple of things I have Noticed On TG the first couple of Days at Keeneland.
1. THere Best bet of the for Opening Day was Negligee in the Alcibades
(nice pay off here if you Listened)
and Yesterday there were a couple of good Scores that TG had in the 3rd Race the Play was Box the 1,3,7 and it came 1-7 for a $324.40 payout

and in the Last Race the Play was Pari at 6-1 or Better and you got a $16.20 Return

I never looked at the 2nd day results vs the TG anaysis.
But all in All Jerry Brown Seems to HAve a pretty good Handle On Syn Surfaces........
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Old 10-12-2009, 08:45 AM
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If you watched Presque Isle, Keeneland is not that hard. The PID horses are winning for fun.
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Old 10-12-2009, 07:37 PM
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I've done ok at Keeneland and hit some of those longshots which surprised me. I don't always do well at playing synthetic tracks. I usually do horrendous at Delmar and Hollywood and Santa Anita. The only explanation that I can think of is that I've been playing horses at Keeneland that actually have synthetic track experience and I think that there are fewer of those at Keeneland than at the Cali tracks. Seems to me that a majority of the horses at Keeneland are coming from conventional dirt and are unproven on synthetic, but the betting public isn't paying any attention. In California, horses are going from one synthetic track to another so it's harder to find horses that may have an experience edge on others. Whatever, the true explanation is, I like it and will be playing Keeneland more in the future.
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