Bad wreck in Fairplex 8th

Ronnie · #1 09-27-2009, 06:15 PM

Yikes.

I hope all is ok.

Gander · #2 09-27-2009, 06:48 PM

That was awful. Hope that horse & jock are okay. I played the horse that it affected the most so I saw the thing unfold. Lucky no ther horse went down, very astute riding on Aaron Gryder's part (to avoid the fallen horse & jock).

dean smith · #3 09-27-2009, 08:45 PM

Gulp. Did I just witness the death of Kyle Kaenel? And when the horse went head over heels, did you see him kick Alonso Quinonez in the head with his hind legs?! Jesus...

docicu3 · #4 09-27-2009, 09:40 PM

It would be nice if someone in the know could update this if KK is doing okay...looked fairly nasty unfortunately

SCUDSBROTHER · #5 09-27-2009, 10:02 PM

TVG is ignoring it tonite. Just interviewing hillbilly quarter-horse trainers.

SCUDSBROTHER · #6 09-27-2009, 10:13 PM

" Kaenel was taken to the hospital with pain in his shoulder. "

Only thing I have heard.

DerbyCat · #7 09-28-2009, 08:27 AM

You've got to think a breakdown is bad when a jock (Gryder) stops trying to ride his horse and keeps looking back at the spill...

Also, found this online this morning: "Kaenel suffered a broken right collarbone and was kept at the hospital overnight for observation."

Ronnie · #8 09-28-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DerbyCat

You've got to think a breakdown is bad when a jock (Gryder) stops trying to ride his horse and keeps looking back at the spill...

I saw that...I was expecting something to happen with the wagering because obviously Gryder stopped trying, and I don't blame him.

Gander · #9 09-28-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie

I saw that...I was expecting something to happen with the wagering because obviously Gryder stopped trying, and I don't blame him.

Ha. Good luck with that. Wouldnt you know I needed that first timer Gryder was on for a score. Its hard to know what would have happened but that didnt help the horse's chances. I dont blame Gryder for stopping either. Why should he risk anything in such a cheap race when hes got all that lute from Well Armed winning the Dubai Cup? Thats kind of how my day went yesterday but its nothing compared to what could have happened to a jockey, just losing mstupid horse bets. Its amazing not more of these guys are seriously maimed or killed. Hope Kaenel comes out of this and rides again soon.

DerbyCat · #10 09-28-2009, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie

I saw that...I was expecting something to happen with the wagering because obviously Gryder stopped trying, and I don't blame him.

Hopefully the CHRB will fully investigate Gryder for this, he obviously did not put forward his best effort riding his horse to the finish line which we all know is a violation of CHRB rules "no jockey shall take his horse back without reasonable cause . . . or otherwise ride in a manner which is inconsistent with using the best efforts of the horse he is riding"

So, is looking back at an accident and checking on the welfare of a fellow rider "reasonable cause"? Gander, did you find Gryder's ride to be "conduct detrimental to horse racing" since you lost your bet?

I'm not trying to p*ss people off here, I just want to start a discussion about this. I know if I had money on Gryder's horse I would have been upset with that ride, but as someone who happens to like Kyle and has concern for him and his family (he's got a baby at home), I saw Gryder's actions as being very human... personally, I think Gryder should have just kept riding and never looked back.

Thoughts?

Gander · #11 09-28-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DerbyCat

Hopefully the CHRB will fully investigate Gryder for this, he obviously did not put forward his best effort riding his horse to the finish line which we all know is a violation of CHRB rules "no jockey shall take his horse back without reasonable cause . . . or otherwise ride in a manner which is inconsistent with using the best efforts of the horse he is riding"

So, is looking back at an accident and checking on the welfare of a fellow rider "reasonable cause"? Gander, did you find Gryder's ride to be "conduct detrimental to horse racing" since you lost your bet?

I'm not trying to p*ss people off here, I just want to start a discussion about this. I know if I had money on Gryder's horse I would have been upset with that ride, but as someone who happens to like Kyle and has concern for him and his family (he's got a baby at home), I saw Gryder's actions as being very human... personally, I think Gryder should have just kept riding and never looked back.

Thoughts?

Wow, I felt kind of bad for bringing this up and wasnt going to say a thing but Gryder did completely forfeit any chance he had in this race when he stopped riding and looked back. I dont want to say I blame him or dont blame him. I like Aaron a lot. Met him back when he was riding at Saratoga as a young guy in his early-mid 20's.

I lost the chance at what would have been a nice score, but you take the chance of something like this happening when you give your money to the tellers. Who knows what would have happened in this instance? Its not like the horse was in the midst of a crazy rally, he was gaining a little bit but he had a lot to do to threaten the leaders, so it doesnt sting as much as it could have.

I should get my head examined for playing this track in the first place. I'm done Fairplex forever.

prudery · #12 09-28-2009, 10:32 PM

Kaenel broke his collarbone, and his horse clipped heels and somersaulted dramatically, but is said to be ok ...

Danzig · #13 09-29-2009, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Wow, I felt kind of bad for bringing this up and wasnt going to say a thing but Gryder did completely forfeit any chance he had in this race when he stopped riding and looked back. I dont want to say I blame him or dont blame him. I like Aaron a lot. Met him back when he was riding at Saratoga as a young guy in his early-mid 20's.

I lost the chance at what would have been a nice score, but you take the chance of something like this happening when you give your money to the tellers. Who knows what would have happened in this instance? Its not like the horse was in the midst of a crazy rally, he was gaining a little bit but he had a lot to do to threaten the leaders, so it doesnt sting as much as it could have.

I should get my head examined for playing this track in the first place. I'm done Fairplex forever.

SCUDSBROTHER · #14 09-29-2009, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Its not like the horse was in the midst of a crazy rally, he was gaining a little bit but he had a lot to do to threaten the leaders, so it doesnt sting as much as it could have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmpziF8BZKw

Yea, could of stung more.

2Hot4TV · #15 09-29-2009, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Wow, I felt kind of bad for bringing this up and wasnt going to say a thing but Gryder did completely forfeit any chance he had in this race when he stopped riding and looked back. I dont want to say I blame him or dont blame him. I like Aaron a lot. Met him back when he was riding at Saratoga as a young guy in his early-mid 20's.

I lost the chance at what would have been a nice score, but you take the chance of something like this happening when you give your money to the tellers. Who knows what would have happened in this instance? Its not like the horse was in the midst of a crazy rally, he was gaining a little bit but he had a lot to do to threaten the leaders, so it doesnt sting as much as it could have.

I should get my head examined for playing this track in the first place. I'm done Fairplex forever.

Gryder had alot of chances to win a race at Fairplex and I didn't see him ride a winning race. Fairplex is a track that you can have alot of trouble, but the results overall are very formful. My point is that Gryder was an instant toss for me at Fairplex and will be the same at Oaktree.

2Hot4TV · #16 09-29-2009, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DerbyCat

Hopefully the CHRB will fully investigate Gryder for this, he obviously did not put forward his best effort riding his horse to the finish line which we all know is a violation of CHRB rules "no jockey shall take his horse back without reasonable cause . . . or otherwise ride in a manner which is inconsistent with using the best efforts of the horse he is riding"

So, is looking back at an accident and checking on the welfare of a fellow rider "reasonable cause"? Gander, did you find Gryder's ride to be "conduct detrimental to horse racing" since you lost your bet?

I'm not trying to p*ss people off here, I just want to start a discussion about this. I know if I had money on Gryder's horse I would have been upset with that ride, but as someone who happens to like Kyle and has concern for him and his family (he's got a baby at home), I saw Gryder's actions as being very human... personally, I think Gryder should have just kept riding and never looked back.

Thoughts?

I'm sure that if your co worker in the the cubical next to you fell over dead you would just keep typing away, Naw my guess is that you would look around and then take his wallet.

DerbyCat · #17 09-29-2009, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

I'm sure that if your co worker in the the cubical next to you fell over dead you would just keep typing away, Naw my guess is that you would look around and then take his wallet.

I actually have my own office at work, no cubicle for me... and I have ethics, I don't steal wallets, or anything else for that matter.

my miss storm cat · #18 10-18-2009, 11:07 PM

Update...

http://www.oaktreeracing.com/stablen...s-ed-golden-15

chucklestheclown · #19 10-19-2009, 01:12 AM

God bless and godspeed...
KYLE KAENEL RETIRES DUE TO INJURIES SUFFERED IN SPILL

Jockey Kyle Kaenel has retired due to extensive injuries the 21-year-old Oceanside, N.Y., native suffered in a riding spill at Fairplex Park on Sept. 27.

“I have a broken (right) collarbone, a broken acromion, a broken shoulder blade, and a pinched nerve in my back, for which I have to see a spine surgeon on Wednesday,” said the tall and lanky Kaenel, son of legendary former rider Cowboy Jack Kaenel, who was the youngest jockey to win a Triple Crown race when he rode Aloma’s Ruler at the age of 16 in the 1982 Preakness Stakes. “I already broke my neck and back in two places, and each time doctors have told me that’s it, as far as riding is concerned,” Kaenel continued. “I’ve got a family now, so I feel lucky if I can walk away from this one.“It wouldn’t be fair to them for me to ask them to push me around in a wheelchair,” Kaenel said. “I rode for five years. It was a fun career, and I will miss it terribly.”

So young; glad he is walking away.