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Old 03-25-2009, 02:03 PM
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Default 3/28 (GP): Florida Derby (G1); Swale (G2); Appleton (G3)

9TH (5:11) Swale S. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 This Ones for Phil Gomez G K 120 L
2 B Z Warrior Velazquez J R 114 Blk-On L
3 Sabi Sabi Lezcano J 118 L
4 Custom for Carlos Desormeaux K J 114 L
5 Brave Victory Leparoux J R 116 L
6 Big Drama Coa E M 120 L



10TH (5:44) Florida Derby (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Toby the Coal Man Leparoux J R 122 L
2 Quality Road Velazquez J R 122 L
3 Casey's On Call Baird E T 122 L
4 Dunkirk Gomez G K 122 L
5 Sincero Trujillo E 122 L
6 Theregoesjojo Desormeaux K J 122 L
7 Danger to Society Madrid M 122 L
8 Europe Decarlo C P 122 L
9 Stately Character Douglas R R 122 L



11TH (6:15) Appleton S. (G3)

7 1/2 Furlongs (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

Post # Horse Jockey Weight Claim Price Equip. Med.
1 Passager (FR) Lezcano J 122 L
2 Vanquisher Montalvo C 120 L
3 Kiss the Kid Trujillo E 122 L
4 Granizo (BRZ) Nunez E O 114 L
5 Bold Start Desormeaux K J 120 L
6 Avanti Avanti Lopez P 116 L
MTO Hypocrite Cruz M R 120 L
8 Cannonball Douglas R R 120 L
9 Artic Cry Leparoux J R 114 L
10 Pickapocket Gomez G K 120 L
11 T. D. Vance Velazquez J R 122 L
12 Fagedaboudit Sal Decarlo C P 120 L

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Old 03-25-2009, 02:09 PM
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Nicanor will be about 4/5 in the 5th race.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:12 PM
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Nicanor will be about 4/5 in the 5th race.
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Couldn't find one of Joe Tessitore.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:20 PM
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Couldn't find one of Joe Tessitore.

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Old 03-25-2009, 02:24 PM
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Switch to that, it's more kind on the eyes!
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:36 PM
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Where is Prado? Snagging him this year might be the worst jockey pick in the history of RTTR.
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Old 03-25-2009, 02:41 PM
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Where is Prado? Snagging him this year might be the worst jockey pick in the history of RTTR.
He's in Dubai.

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Old 03-25-2009, 03:12 PM
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Where is Prado? Snagging him this year might be the worst jockey pick in the history of RTTR.
Riding Arson Squad.
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Old 03-25-2009, 03:14 PM
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Anyone else find it funny that Tabor/Smith are using a $2.6 million horse as a rabbit? Jesus.
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Old 03-25-2009, 03:18 PM
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Anyone else find it funny that Tabor/Smith are using a $2.6 million horse as a rabbit? Jesus.
yeah, i saw that... why not use a 30k claimer thats a confirmed sprinter
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Old 03-25-2009, 03:22 PM
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Anyone else find it funny that Tabor/Smith are using a $2.6 million horse as a rabbit? Jesus.
I also find it funny that there was another speed horse entered after all (Casey's On Call). It's even more questionable that they think QR is a horse who may not get an even better trip by stalking the rabbit or rating kindly before taking off.

Team TAP seems to have been following Dutrow's lead.

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If Big Drama runs well in the Swale, do you think there's any chance they reconsider their decision to not point towards the Derby?

I know they announced the decision a couple weeks ago as betting for the
2nd Derby Futures pool was about it begin, and it made sense then not to mislead bettors.

But unless they believe it's "too much too soon" or he can't get the 1-1/4 distance, I don't see why not.
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Old 03-25-2009, 03:44 PM
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Danger to Society is kind of an unknown factor in this one. A lot of the 3rd choice wagering will gear towards JoJo, and Danger is arguably more deserving.
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Old 03-25-2009, 04:45 PM
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Toby The Coal Man's finish last out (37.6 final 3/8ths) was surprisingly fast. To be honest the pace was kind of soft and I'm not too crazy about this horse. It was a quicker time than I expected, and i will want to look at the variant for that day and maybe hand time it. Just a nose margin, but the place horse had a great trip with the exception of maybe being asked a little early.

EDIT - no the time is right , and per DRF the track variant was about the same 21 vs 20. He could save ground all the way. Honestly handicapping the 3rd and 4th slots is moot. This isn't a betting race as much as it is an important prep.

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Old 03-28-2009, 11:34 AM
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fixed odds at TheGreek.com:

301 Dunkirk +125
302 Quality Road +185
303 Rest of the Field +185

A prop:

Danger to Society will finish top 3 Listed runners must start for bets to be action. $200 limit.
321 Yes +225
322 No -305

Matchups:

Dunkirk vs Quality Road Listed runners must start for bets to be action. $200 limit.
311 Dunkirk -150
312 Quality Road +120

Quality Road vs There Goes Jojo Listed runners must start for bets to be action. $200 limit.
313 Quality Road -160
314 There Goes Jojo +130

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Old 03-28-2009, 12:05 PM
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Danger To Society scratched
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Old 03-28-2009, 03:03 PM
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Playing a little on Stately Character hoping for the upset, and boxing in a tri with Dunkirk and Theregoesjojo.

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Old 03-28-2009, 03:45 PM
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Florida Derby will be a very nice race to watch but horrible betting race.
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Old 03-28-2009, 04:17 PM
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too bad gomez didn't ride TOFP in the FOY

pretty nice Swale. I don't know how juiced the track was but they set the track record.
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