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Old 03-10-2009, 09:43 AM
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I know there are a few race announcers that lurk on this board, so I wanted to give a shout out to Trevor Denman for having the ballocks for calling Gio Ponti a nose winner over Ventura at the wire in a high profile race no less and saying so rather nonchalantly. I don't know how he knew seeing the photo afterward but well done.
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:01 AM
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now if he would only have the ballocks to call out fractions.
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:04 AM
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I know there are a few race announcers that lurk on this board, so I wanted to give a shout out to Trevor Denman for having the ballocks for calling Gio Ponti a nose winner over Ventura at the wire in a high profile race no less and saying so rather nonchalantly. I don't know how he knew seeing the photo afterward but well done.
I thought it was ballsy....I had no clue. Looked like Gio Ponti got up, but never would have called it without seeing a slowed replay.
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Old 03-10-2009, 10:46 AM
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I thought it was ballsy....I had no clue. Looked like Gio Ponti got up, but never would have called it without seeing a slowed replay.
When first watching it I thought Ventura had held on, I've watched many races from SA and I was surprised he called Gio Ponti when they crossed the wire. Usually racecaller's will say 'too close to call' or 'photo' given it was on Big Cap day and it was the Kilroy, I thought he showed alot of balls. When they replay that Kilroy years from now, it was nailed. I can only imagine if he was wrong, you can't go back and recall the race. He took a big risk.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:07 AM
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When first watching it I thought Ventura had held on, I've watched many races from SA and I was surprised he called Gio Ponti when they crossed the wire. Usually racecaller's will say 'too close to call' or 'photo' given it was on Big Cap day and it was the Kilroy, I thought he showed alot of balls. When they replay that Kilroy years from now, it was nailed. I can only imagine if he was wrong, you can't go back and recall the race. He took a big risk.
I hear ya. Even John Dooley, who is my favorite track announcer, will call it a photo lots of times when it's completely clear who won...so basically the exact opposite of what Denman did. That's about the only thing I don't like about him, is that he anticipates there being a photo 40 yards out, and then a horse wins by a half-length.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:21 AM
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One thing you have to remember about calling photos is placement of the announcers booth. I know in my 3 years at river, i probably called photo without calling a winner or atleast saying who i thought got it maybe 3 times ever. Cause my booth was right on the wire.

At Portland, i'm atleast 50 to 60 feet up the stretch from the wire. I've heard Tampa is damn near 100 feet up from the wire and at keeneland, Kurt Becker is halfway between the two finishes.

That being said, i thought watching the race Gio Ponti got it but was surprised to hear Trevor call it that close, and after watching the first replay i thought Gio Ponti might not have got it LOL Kudos to a legend!
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:30 AM
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Gee isn't he impressive. So he gets lucky and we need to kiss his ass.

How about all the times where he takes STABS at the pace and ****s up? A fairly common occurrence for him.

You know, when he sees a bunch of horses contesting and ASSUMES that the pace is fast, and then looks like an idiot when the split is posted. Of when he assumes the pace is picking up when horses start accelerating; etc.

The day can't come quick enough when ALL tracks will have TRAKUS (or something similar) and we can mute out all the NOISE (of the race caller). Which is exactly what I do at DMR: MUTE THE DOOFUS.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:34 AM
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I'm 40 feet before the wire or so, often a tough angle, but you get used to it. I never go out on a limb though and say whether or not it was Jess Toast to Cash, AKG Longsideshot, Dashing Bye In First or Rocking Rocky Dash during the Q's.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:43 AM
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Gee isn't he impressive. So he gets lucky and we need to kiss his ass.

How about all the times where he takes STABS at the pace and ****s up? A fairly common occurrence for him.

You know, when he sees a bunch of horses contesting and ASSUMES that the pace is fast, and then looks like an idiot when the split is posted. Of when he assumes the pace is picking up when horses start accelerating; etc.

The day can't come quick enough when ALL tracks will have TRAKUS (or something similar) and we can mute out all the NOISE (of the race caller). Which is exactly what I do at DMR: MUTE THE DOOFUS.
Contrarian of the board?..Obcourse lets just continue with the status quo have no one ever go out on the limb and call head, neck finishes as photo finishes.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:51 AM
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I'm 40 feet before the wire or so, often a tough angle, but you get used to it. I never go out on a limb though and say whether or not it was Jess Toast to Cash, AKG Longsideshot, Dashing Bye In First or Rocking Rocky Dash during the Q's.
It would be o.k. for you to go out on the limb calling T' breds (so what if Dave Johnson makes a lil blunder before he calls it a career.)
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:54 AM
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I'm 40 feet before the wire or so, often a tough angle, but you get used to it. I never go out on a limb though and say whether or not it was Jess Toast to Cash, AKG Longsideshot, Dashing Bye In First or Rocking Rocky Dash during the Q's.
Jballscalls, Travis

That's fair, it depends on the vantage point where you are calling from and I can understand that. I just don't remembering a high profile racecaller calling a horse in as close a finish as in this Kilroy and being so sure of themselves. This wasn't a 10K claimer on a lazy Thurs afternoon, it's certainly not the norm.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:57 AM
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Contrarian of the board?..Obcourse lets just continue with the status quo have no one ever go out on the limb and call head, neck finishes as photo finishes.
Son of Sam=Famous 70's Contrarian

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Old 03-10-2009, 11:59 AM
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Son of Sam=Famous 70's Contrarian
Any response from Fatman I take as a compliment anyway, the more contrarian the more the compliment.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:59 AM
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Big deal. The guy has a good eye for photos. Last time I checked, we have replays, so it doesn't really matter. It doesn't cancel out all of his other annoying traits.
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Old 03-10-2009, 12:11 PM
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Big deal. The guy has a good eye for photos. Last time I checked, we have replays, so it doesn't really matter. It doesn't cancel out all of his other annoying traits.
I told you that using this is like saying "I'm Joey the O.C.D. guy."
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Old 03-10-2009, 12:15 PM
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I told you that using this is like saying "I'm Joey the O.C.D. guy."
I don't understand this. He's annoying. He's not enraging, he's annoying. Why can't I say this again?
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Old 03-10-2009, 12:15 PM
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Yeah

At one time, a very distant time, I thought this board was more for BETTORS than casual 'fans'. As a better I want MORE PRECISE DATA, which includes video. PERIOD!! **** all the superfluous ****. The race caller has no role in this. I don't need 50%, 75%, or whatever, accuracy. I NEED 100% ACCURACY!! So give me TRAKUS and mute the monkey (to balance out the cost).

Now, I find it IRONIC that in an age of TECHNOLOGICAL EXPLOSION, where MORE is the norm, that SA, (one of Denman's employers) is NOT SHOWING FULL HEADON REPLAYS. And they haven't for a while. (Of course, they even further truncate these replays in the case of spills -- wouldn't want to be politically INcorrect now, would we?) They must figure we're all FANS and are SO IMPRESSED by their monkey getting a photo correct that we could care less about the more precise aspects of the game.

This is yet another example of why the ****in game is lagging WAY BEHIND THE TIMES.
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Old 03-10-2009, 12:18 PM
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I don't understand this. He's annoying. He's not enraging, he's annoying. Why can't I say this again?
You can do anything you want. I am not saying to stop doing it.
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Old 03-10-2009, 12:18 PM
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Any response from Fatman I take as a compliment anyway, the more contrarian the more the compliment.
I loved your recent troubled trip post, btw. Seems like you've got that 'trap' locked in.
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Old 03-10-2009, 12:25 PM
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I loved your recent troubled trip post, btw. Seems like you've got that 'trap' locked in.
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