Godolphin buys Point Encounter

10 pnt move up · #1 12-26-2008, 03:28 PM

well thats my prediction. I say about 3 million will do it for a home bred from a not so big time outfit.

eajinabi · #2 12-26-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

well thats my prediction. I say about 3 million will do it for a home bred from a not so big time outfit.

Proabaly looking at a 3-4 races before he retires

AeWingnut · #3 12-26-2008, 03:58 PM

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well thats my prediction. I say about 3 million will do it for a home bred from a not so big time outfit.

Do you own Point Encounter?

10 pnt move up · #4 12-26-2008, 04:05 PM

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Do you own Point Encounter?

no, but that would be nice.....and I would sell him in a heartbeat.

That was the most impressive 2yo maiden win in socal this year. I like the runner up as well but that horse is built like a sprinter where the winner more like a router (and a pedigree as well).

Kasept · #5 12-26-2008, 04:16 PM

Word had been out about this colt. Tried to get a Derby Book price yesterday in Las Vegas via Rich Eng, and he was already bet down to 30-1 at Wynn... YESTERDAY! Before his first start.

Scav · #6 12-26-2008, 04:28 PM

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Word had been out about this colt. Tried to get a Derby Book price yesterday in Las Vegas via Rich Eng, and he was already bet down to 30-1 at Wynn... YESTERDAY! Before his first start.

Gary Stevens was also talking about him on HRTV for a week.....

10 pnt move up · #7 12-26-2008, 04:34 PM

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Gary Stevens was also talking about him on HRTV for a week.....

did he say it was the best horse he has ever ridden?

Scav · #8 12-26-2008, 04:36 PM

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did he say it was the best horse he has ever ridden?

Kasept · #9 12-26-2008, 04:37 PM

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did he say it was the best horse he has ever ridden?

OOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

VOL JACK · #10 12-26-2008, 04:43 PM

He is the 2nd great looking Point Given colt that I've seen win at 1st asking in the past month. Pressure Point for Mike Maker being the other at CD on Nov 29th.
I was shocked at how bad Tevez the Tiger ran for E Harty. The most expensive Cuvee sold at auction in 2008.

10 pnt move up · #11 12-26-2008, 04:45 PM

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He is the 2nd great looking Point Given colt that I've seen win at 1st asking in the past month. Pressure Point for Mike Maker being the other at CD on Nov 29th.
I was shocked at how bad Tevez the Tiger ran for E Harty. The most expensive Cuvee sold at auction in 2008.

what do you expect with E Harty, he is a players nightmare, his horses go in and out of form when they dont look like they should.

sumitas · #12 12-26-2008, 06:30 PM

Not listed in Steve Haskins latest article on promising 2 yr olds . I'm sure he will be . He is a Point Given/Dmitri cross. 2.33 di. x2 Northern Dancer. 1/2 to stakes winning filly Private World o/o sw Rita Rucker, 72 races.

Merlinsky · #13 12-26-2008, 06:56 PM

Are we talking Santa Anita? If so can somebody gimme a heads up on how I can find it on Calracing.com? I don't know the race #.

Duvalier · #14 12-26-2008, 06:57 PM

Race 3 today at Santa Anita.

Merlinsky · #15 12-26-2008, 07:43 PM

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Race 3 today at Santa Anita.

Thanks!

sumitas · #16 12-26-2008, 08:01 PM

Here's a pedigree overview of the top tier Haskins mentioned in his article "Stout Group for 2009." http://racing.bloodhorse.com/article/48527.htm
Break Water Edison -by Lemon Drop Kid/Storm Creek cross. 2.56 di. o/o sw mare August Storm . x2 Mr Prospector and Northern Dancer .
Old Fashioned - by Unbridled's Song/Meadowlake cross. x2 Raise A Native. 5.22 di . o/o gsw Collect Call.
Pioneerof The Nile - G1SW by Empire Maker/Lord At War cross. 3.89 di . o/o sw Star of Goshen . 1/2 to stakes placed Forefathers. A 5 gen out cross with the exception of EM's x2 In Reality .
Beethoven - Sky Mesa/Carson City cross. 5.86 . o/o gsw Moonlight Sonata. x2 Mr Propsepctor. Heavy on the speed underneath . Questionable stamina.
Square Eddie - Smart Strike/El Gran Senor cross . 2.64 di. o/o sp Forty Gran. 1/2 to sp Reverently. x2 Native Dancer, x2 Smartaire .
Capt. Candyman Can - Candy Ride/Storm Creek cross. 1.67 di . o/o sw Stormy Way. x2 Mr Propspector.
Charitable Man - Lemon Drop Kid/Saint Ballado cross. 2.06 di. o/o sw Caritabledonation. x2 Mr Propsector. x2 Buckpasser .
Giant Oak - Giants Causeway/Crafty Prospector cross. 3.00 di . o/o gsw Crafty Oak. full to gsp Apple Martini. x2 Northern Dancer .
Chocolate Candy - Candy Ride/Seattle Slew cross. 2.08 di . o/o sw Crownette. 1/2 to sp Crowning Storm. x2 Alanesian .
Big Drama - this Fla. bred is a Montbrook/Notebook cross. 3.00 di . o/o unraced Riveting Drama . 1/2 to black type fillies Coffee Can and Drama's Way. x2 Tom Fool. x2 Nearctic.
I Want Revenge - Stephen Got Even/Roy cross. 3.00 di. o/o Argentine sp Meguial . 5 gen outcross.
West Side Bernie - a Bernstein/Gilded Time cross. di 1.80. First foal o/o apparently unraced Time Honored. x2 Princequillo, x2 Northern Dancer, x3 Secretariat. Heavy speed underneath.
Atomic Rain - a Smart Strike/Coxs Ridge cross. 3.40 di. o/o unraced, apparentley, Paradise Pond. x2 Turn-To.
Believe In Hope - Thunder Gulch/Mr Greeley cross . 3.00 di . o/o sw Hope Rises. x2 Mr Propspector.
Terrain - Sky Mesa/Forty Niner cross. 2.20 di. o/o sw Minery. 1/2 to sp Clergy. x2 Mr Prospector .

and the 2 ex-pats Midshipman - Unbridleds Song/Avenue of Flags. 2.37. o/o gsw Fleet Lady . 1/2 to gsw Fast Cookie. 5 gen out cross.
Vineyard Haven - Lido Palace/Aloha Prospector. 3.00. o/o winning mare Aloha. 1/2 to sw On The Vineyard. x2 Mr Prospector.

GPK · #17 12-26-2008, 08:03 PM

I know that it doesn't mean much to some people,but I wasn't a fan of seeing front wraps for his debut.

GBBob · #18 12-26-2008, 08:25 PM

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I know that it doesn't mean much to some people,but I wasn't a fan of seeing front wraps for his debut.

I saw that too...plus the Place horse had all kinds of trouble switching leads it looked and might have made it more interesting

GBBob · #19 12-26-2008, 08:29 PM

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Here's a pedigree overview of the top tier Haskins mentioned in his article "Stout Group for 2009." http://racing.bloodhorse.com/article/48527.htm
Break Water Edison -by Lemon Drop Kid/Storm Creek cross. 2.56 di. o/o sw mare August Storm . x2 Mr Prospector and Northern Dancer .
Old Fashioned - by Unbridled's Song/Meadowlake cross. x2 Raise A Native. 5.22 di . o/o gsw Collect Call.
Pioneerof The Nile - G1SW by Empire Maker/Lord At War cross. 3.89 di . o/o sw Star of Goshen . 1/2 to stakes placed Forefathers. A 5 gen out cross with the exception of EM's x2 In Reality .
Beethoven - Sky Mesa/Carson City cross. 5.86 . o/o gsw Moonlight Sonata. x2 Mr Propsepctor. Heavy on the speed underneath . Questionable stamina.
Square Eddie - Smart Strike/El Gran Senor cross . 2.64 di. o/o sp Forty Gran. 1/2 to sp Reverently. x2 Native Dancer, x2 Smartaire .
Capt. Candyman Can - Candy Ride/Storm Creek cross. 1.67 di . o/o sw Stormy Way. x2 Mr Propspector.
Charitable Man - Lemon Drop Kid/Saint Ballado cross. 2.06 di. o/o sw Caritabledonation. x2 Mr Propsector. x2 Buckpasser .
Giant Oak - Giants Causeway/Crafty Prospector cross. 3.00 di . o/o gsw Crafty Oak. 1/2 to gsp Apple Martini. x2 Northern Dancer .
Chocolate Candy - Candy Ride/Seattle Slew cross. 2.08 di . o/o sw Crownette. 1/2 to sp Crowning Storm. x2 Alanesian .
Big Drama - this Fla. bred is a Montbrook/Notebook cross. 3.00 di . o/o unraced Riveting Drama . 1/2 to black type fillies Coffee Can and Drama's Way. x2 Tom Fool. x2 Nearctic.
I Want Revenge - Stephen Got Even/Roy cross. 3.00 di. o/o Argentine sp Meguial . 5 gen outcross.
West Side Bernie - a Bernstein/Gilded Time cross. di 1.80. First foal o/o apparently unraced Time Honored. x2 Princequillo, x2 Northern Dancer, x3 Secretariat. Heavy speed underneath.
Atomic Rain - a Smart Strike/Coxs Ridge cross. 3.40 di. o/o unraced, apparentley, Paradise Pond. x2 Turn-To.
Believe In Hope - Thunder Gulch/Mr Greeley cross . 3.00 di . o/o sw Hope Rises. x2 Mr Propspector.
Terrain - Sky Mesa/Forty Niner cross. 2.20 di. o/o sw Minery. 1/2 to sp Clergy. x2 Mr Prospector .

and the 2 ex-pats Midshipman - Unbridleds Song/Avenue of Flags. 2.37. o/o gsw Fleet Lady . 1/2 to gsw Fast Cookie. 5 gen out cross.
Vineyard Haven - Lido Palace/Aloha Prospector. 3.00. o/o winning mare Aloha. 1/2 to sw On The Vineyard. x2 Mr Prospector.

Giant Oak...Illinois bred....First Race on the Turf and won, then won on the Poly, back to the grass and finished behind Bittel Road then a great second on the dirt. Pretty diverse first four races surface wise. And a very good and relatively unknown trainer in Chris Block.

sumitas · #20 12-26-2008, 08:34 PM

Correction : full sibling to the gsp mid west filly Apple Martini. They have a good family line through the reines de course Boat and Herodias. Giants Causeway has done well crossing with Crafty Prospector including sw filly Win Mccool .