Why does this guy get good stock?

Indian Charlie · #1 07-24-2008, 07:51 PM

From a Bris article today:

"I was very concerned about the wet track," Harty stated. "My wife (Kathleen) told me to run. I have to give her full credit. She told me not to weaken."

Over the years, I have seen nothing but stupid things come out of his mouth.

I'm not sure if I've seen a trainer this decade as clueless.

blackthroatedwind · #2 07-24-2008, 10:02 PM

He better hope that horse hated today's wet track....otherwise he aint much.

Scurlogue Champ · #3 07-24-2008, 11:42 PM

Come on, Harty's a genius.

pick4 · #4 07-24-2008, 11:57 PM

You guys must be bachelors. Married men always say YES when then wifey puts in her two points. We say YES but we ignore the words she says.

The horse won and he gave his wife all the credit. That is a smart husband.
Huh Huh, Ok, Yes dear, are words that have kept my marriage strong.

Mag · #5 07-25-2008, 06:39 AM

Why does this guy get good stock?

Same reason Zito does

blackthroatedwind · #6 07-25-2008, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mag

Why does this guy get good stock?

Same reason Zito does

I'll assume your dog stole your login.

philcski · #7 07-25-2008, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He better hope that horse hated today's wet track....otherwise he aint much.

Any idea what the Beyer came back? I think it should be slower than every sprint on the card save the 3rd, and possibly the 6th. Shouldn't be much better than a 75.

VOL JACK · #8 07-25-2008, 08:37 AM

78 beyer

blackthroatedwind · #9 07-25-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

78 beyer

So, as long as he hates mud and polytrack there's a chance he isn't a complete bum.

sumitas · #10 07-25-2008, 08:42 AM

I thought handicappers of your reknown could handle any surface ?

philcski · #11 07-25-2008, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

78 beyer

Thanks. Sounds at least reasonable.

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So, as long as he hates mud and polytrack there's a chance he isn't a complete bum.

Blewitt said "did we see the 2009 Kentucky Derby winner today?" on the replay show... sorry Jason, but no.

sumitas · #12 07-25-2008, 09:59 AM

Blewitt shows his lack of experience often. He's a decent talking head but horse race savvy wise you'd think they could have hired capable veterans of this game.

I'd like to see him and his sidekick replaced by more deserving, well rounded commentators.

philcski · #13 07-25-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sumitas

Blewitt shows his lack of experience often. He's a decent talking head but horse race savvy wise you'd think they could have hired capable veterans of this game.

I'd like to see him and his sidekick replaced by more deserving commentators.

I like his energy and enthusiasm for the game, and he's certainly knowledgeable. That comment does show some inexperience but I don't think they should be replaced.

Bobby Fischer · #14 07-25-2008, 10:06 AM

i ran in this thread with a contrary debate supporting Dale Romans

*regroups*

Indian Charlie · #15 07-25-2008, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mag

Why does this guy get good stock?

Same reason Zito does

I'm not the biggest Zito fan in the world, but cmon, that's crazy talk.

Rupert Pupkin · #16 07-25-2008, 07:24 PM

I don't know how good Desert Party is but so far he's done everything asked of him. He looks like a route horse. I wouldn't expect him to be setting any track records sprinting. I'm impressed that he has enough tactical speed to stay close and win sprinting.

I was on the fence about the horse at the Fasig Tipton Calder Sale. He worked :10 2/5, which is decent but not incredible. There were at least 10-15 horses that worked faster. He almost looked like he was moving in slow-motion. He looked like he was working in :10 4/5. He had a nice way of going. He looked like a one-paced route horse. He moved evenly and did not look like he had any quick acceleration. As I said, I was on the fence. I had him down as a "maybe" on my list. I certainly wouldn't have paid $2 million for him. He looked like the type of horse that would go for $500,000 or so.

I'm impressed with what he's done so far. He looks like he wants to route, but he has enough class to win sprinting. I would not downgrade him for not scorching the track. I would have never expected him to scorch the track sprinting.

The connections have to be very pleased with what he's done so far.

Indian Charlie · #17 07-25-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't know how good Desert Party is but so far he's done everything asked of him. He looks like a route horse. I wouldn't expect him to be setting any track records sprinting. I'm impressed that he has enough tactical speed to stay close and win sprinting.

I was on the fence about the horse at the Fasig Tipton Calder Sale. He worked :10 2/5, which is decent but not incredible. There were at least 10-15 horses that worked faster. He almost looked like he was moving in slow-motion. He looked like he was working in :10 4/5. He had a nice way of going. He looked like a one-paced route horse. He moved evenly and did not look like he had any quick acceleration. As I said, I was on the fence. I had him down as a "maybe" on my list. I certainly wouldn't have paid $2 million for him. He looked like the type of horse that would go for $500,000 or so.

I'm impressed with what he's done so far. He looks like he wants to route, but he has enough class to win sprinting. I would not downgrade him for not scorching the track. I would have never expected him to scorch the track sprinting.

The connections have to be very pleased with what he's done so far.

I agree about the sprinting/routing thing, but alas, it won't matter.
He's owned by Godolphin and trained by Harty.

It simply just does not get much worse than that.

sumitas · #18 07-25-2008, 08:22 PM

It was a 4 horse field. They jury is still out.

Rupert Pupkin · #19 07-25-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I agree about the sprinting/routing thing, but alas, it won't matter.
He's owned by Godolphin and trained by Harty.

It simply just does not get much worse than that.

I don't think Harty is anything special as a trainer. But I think he is adequate. I don't think he's a bad trainer. I would rate him slightly better than average.

By the way, did you see that Ron Ellis ended up having the best win percentage of any trainer at Hollywwod Park the meet that just ended? He had 14 wins from 54 starters.

For the year he is at 19%. He has 20 wins from 104 starters. But he also has over 20 second place finishes. So that means that over 40% of his starters have run 1st or 2nd this year.

Indian Charlie · #20 07-25-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't think Harty is anything special as a trainer. But I think he is adequate. I don't think he's a bad trainer. I would rate him slightly better than average.

By the way, did you see that Ron Ellis ended up having the best win percentage of any trainer at Hollywwod Park the meet that just ended? He had 14 wins from 54 starters.

For the year he is at 19%. He has 20 wins from 104 starters. But he also has over 20 second place finishes. So that means that over 40% of his starters have run 1st or 2nd this year.

You would rate Harty slightly better than average, with that stock he gets?

Good for Ellis! I still say he's an underachiever though.